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    • brianlittlejohnB
      brianlittlejohn
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      My other thought is let it be a free for all and If I don't agree with it I'll stop reading that post. This is one of these issues where there is not a clear cut right way to do it or not.

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        dafyre @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said:

        One thing that I was thinking about before @anonymous posted this was about how IT is such a broad scope item and when we talk about people going to college, for example, for IT the thing that we (or at least I) heavily recommend is liberal studies - all the things that are not IT. Psychology, political science, literature, history, etc. Being good at IT, truly great at it, really requires this huge scope of not just technical stuff but all this "other" stuff. How does a community about IT limit itself to IT when the necessities of IT are so incredibly broad and the people who do it have to think so broadly?

        I see this, especially in small IT Departments where the department (as a whole) is expected to know how to perform every major job function on campus and be able to do so at the drop of a hat. I learned more about real business and IT stuff at my last job than I ever did in my college days or technical college (and I had several accounting classes!).

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          Alex Sage @Minion Queen
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          @Minion-Queen said:

          We are getting ready to hire a Community Manager however soon, a day I can't wait for.

          I am sorry to hear this.

          • Why can't we have a community that doesn't need a community manager?
          • Where the community decides what goes, and what stays?
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          • Minion QueenM
            Minion Queen Banned
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            I promise you will all love the person I am hoping to hire. Part of a Community Managers job is to keep you all engaged and to keep everything fun. As well as help with keeping the IT value of our community at a high level.

            Unless you all want to start paying to keep the community going we do need to make sure we provide value to both all of you and Vendors.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
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              @anonymous said:

              • Why can't we have a community that doesn't need a community manager?
              • Where the community decides what goes, and what stays?

              It's always had community manager(s), just people who are not focused on it and not trained on it. It's not "more oversight" it is simply "more disciplined oversight."

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller
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                You really can't have a community without a community manager, not one with any traffic, anyway. Something that you might not notice is that we have regular porn spam traffic now. It is continuously eliminated before anyone sees it but there are active attempts to be posting garbage on the site being thwarted left and right. It takes oversight once we start getting SEO. The last thing we want to be is Reddit.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @dafyre
                  last edited by

                  @dafyre said:

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  One thing that I was thinking about before @anonymous posted this was about how IT is such a broad scope item and when we talk about people going to college, for example, for IT the thing that we (or at least I) heavily recommend is liberal studies - all the things that are not IT. Psychology, political science, literature, history, etc. Being good at IT, truly great at it, really requires this huge scope of not just technical stuff but all this "other" stuff. How does a community about IT limit itself to IT when the necessities of IT are so incredibly broad and the people who do it have to think so broadly?

                  I see this, especially in small IT Departments where the department (as a whole) is expected to know how to perform every major job function on campus and be able to do so at the drop of a hat. I learned more about real business and IT stuff at my last job than I ever did in my college days or technical college (and I had several accounting classes!).

                  In the SMB especially IT is often called on to make business decisions, often ones that are very deep and complex and beyond the business skills of the SMB management that they support.

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                    Alex Sage @Minion Queen
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                    @Minion-Queen said:

                    I promise you will all love the person I am hoping to hire. Part of a Community Managers job is to keep you all engaged and to keep everything fun. As well as help with keeping the IT value of our community at a high level.

                    Unless you all want to start paying to keep the community going we do need to make sure we provide value to both all of you and Vendors.

                    I would happily pay, but sadly, I might be in the minority.

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                      Alex Sage @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      You really can't have a community without a community manager, not one with any traffic, anyway. Something that you might not notice is that we have regular porn spam traffic now. It is continuously eliminated before anyone sees it but there are active attempts to be posting garbage on the site being thwarted left and right. It takes oversight once we start getting SEO. The last thing we want to be is Reddit.

                      Easy to solved by having trusted community members review posts of new users before they are allow to be open to the everyone.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
                        last edited by

                        @anonymous said:

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        You really can't have a community without a community manager, not one with any traffic, anyway. Something that you might not notice is that we have regular porn spam traffic now. It is continuously eliminated before anyone sees it but there are active attempts to be posting garbage on the site being thwarted left and right. It takes oversight once we start getting SEO. The last thing we want to be is Reddit.

                        Easy to solved by having trusted community members review posts of new users before they are allow to be open to the everyone.

                        Well two problems there...

                        1. That's not easy, that would require a huge development investment to make a system able to do that.
                        2. That's just community managers with another name, that's the same solution that there already is.
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