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      scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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      @BRRABill said:

      My point being if a 200 PC company wants this and can get it for under $500 ... why don't just allow people to image?

      I'm sure it involves control, monitoring and getting people into the VL program.

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        brianlittlejohn @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said:

        @Dashrender said:

        @JaredBusch

        You cannot image 200 machines with OEM Windows 7 to Windows 10 by only purchasing 1 Windows 10 VL.

        Yeah, this is my current problem... I'm going to have to manually upgrade all of my win7 and win 8 to win 10... Then use my VL to roll images... What a pain!

        Is that true? Is that because you have some path that by doing it manually MS will grant you upgrade rights but only one version at a time? What is making this the case?

        I remember a SW thread where Chris from Microsoft addressed this, and to upgrade your machines to 10 and image them, you have to manually run the update to 10, then go back and re-image.

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          scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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          @BRRABill said:

          DESKTOP: is it even worth discussing SA, or is it too complicated? Maybe a high level overview, or the Cliff Notes version?

          If you want to be "always up to date" on your desktops, want a few unique features or are doing VDI then SA is often the way to go, as @jason pointed out.

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            scottalanmiller @brianlittlejohn
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            @brianlittlejohn said:

            I remember a SW thread where Chris from Microsoft addressed this, and to upgrade your machines to 10 and image them, you have to manually run the update to 10, then go back and re-image.

            To get the free upgrade, you mean? Since there is a free 8.1 -> 10 path, I could see that. Is there something similar to get from 7 -> 8?

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              brianlittlejohn @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller I don't think there is a free upgrade path to 8.1 only directly to 10

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                scottalanmiller @brianlittlejohn
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                @brianlittlejohn said:

                @scottalanmiller I don't think there is a free upgrade path to 8.1 only directly to 10

                How would that help his situation then? Once he has the upgrade rights, just jump to 10. I must be missing something.

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                  hobbit666 @Dashrender
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                  @Dashrender said:

                  @JaredBusch

                  You cannot image 200 machines with OEM Windows 7 to Windows 10 by only purchasing 1 Windows 10 VL.

                  Yeah, this is my current problem... I'm going to have to manually upgrade all of my win7 and win 8 to win 10... Then use my VL to roll images... What a pain!

                  This is what i'm looking at doing but only for new machines. Manually upgrade them to Win10. Then deploy a image that has our software on it.

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                    Reid Cooper
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                    Sounds like most large businesses will just pay for upgrade rights, probably cheaper on a machine by machine basis. And way easier to track.

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                      brianlittlejohn @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      @brianlittlejohn said:

                      @scottalanmiller I don't think there is a free upgrade path to 8.1 only directly to 10

                      How would that help his situation then? Once he has the upgrade rights, just jump to 10. I must be missing something.

                      I may be missing something, but there is a free path from 7 to 10 as well. Just if you are wanting to take advantage of the free upgrade and have imaging rights you have to manually do the upgrade from 7 to 10 before you are allowed to image.

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                        scottalanmiller
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                        Does that free path include going to each intermediate version?

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                          brianlittlejohn @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller No, i went straight from 7 to 10 on my desktop

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                            scottalanmiller @brianlittlejohn
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                            @brianlittlejohn said:

                            @scottalanmiller No, i went straight from 7 to 10 on my desktop

                            Hmmmm... we'll need @Dashrender to explain what is his sticking point in the upgrade process.

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                              brianlittlejohn @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              @brianlittlejohn said:

                              @scottalanmiller No, i went straight from 7 to 10 on my desktop

                              Hmmmm... we'll need @Dashrender to explain what is his sticking point in the upgrade process.

                              I think his sticking point is he has to manually go to each machine initially to upgrade them.

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                                scottalanmiller @brianlittlejohn
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                                @brianlittlejohn said:

                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                @brianlittlejohn said:

                                @scottalanmiller No, i went straight from 7 to 10 on my desktop

                                Hmmmm... we'll need @Dashrender to explain what is his sticking point in the upgrade process.

                                I think his sticking point is he has to manually go to each machine initially to upgrade them.

                                Yeah, but he was talking about having to go through each version 7 - 8 - 8.1 to get to 10 .

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                                  brianlittlejohn @Dashrender
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                                  @Dashrender said:

                                  Yeah, this is my current problem... I'm going to have to manually upgrade all of my win7 and win 8 to win 10... Then use my VL to roll images... What a pain!

                                  I think he just has pcs on both win 7 & 8, not that he has to go through each version.

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                                    scottalanmiller @brianlittlejohn
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                                    @brianlittlejohn said:

                                    @Dashrender said:

                                    Yeah, this is my current problem... I'm going to have to manually upgrade all of my win7 and win 8 to win 10... Then use my VL to roll images... What a pain!

                                    I think he just has pcs on both win 7 & 8, not that he has to go through each version.

                                    Oh okay.

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                                      AVI-NetworkGuy @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      @brianlittlejohn said:

                                      I remember a SW thread where Chris from Microsoft addressed this, and to upgrade your machines to 10 and image them, you have to manually run the update to 10, then go back and re-image.

                                      To get the free upgrade, you mean? Since there is a free 8.1 -> 10 path, I could see that. Is there something similar to get from 7 -> 8?

                                      It was my understanding that the free upgrade to Windows 10 did not include Enterprise. The upgrade to Enterprise still requires a VL agreement, so in that regard, nothing changed with the release of 10.

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                                        brianlittlejohn @AVI-NetworkGuy
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                                        @AVI-NetworkGuy Yea, you can't upgrade enterprise version, only professional

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                                          brianlittlejohn @brianlittlejohn
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                                          @brianlittlejohn and home as well. Just to be thorough.

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                                            scottalanmiller @AVI-NetworkGuy
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                                            @AVI-NetworkGuy said:

                                            It was my understanding that the free upgrade to Windows 10 did not include Enterprise. The upgrade to Enterprise still requires a VL agreement, so in that regard, nothing changed with the release of 10.

                                            Mostly companies that run Enterprise also do so under an EA and negotiate those upgrades anyway.

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