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    • IT-ADMINI
      IT-ADMIN
      last edited by scottalanmiller

      Hi guys

      i wonder if putting stand by computers (they are off) in a cold server room (17 C) can damage them or not ??
      today i take one computer (that was in the server room for 2 month now) and find that is not working, when i plug the power, the lamp keep blinking without anything on the screen?

      i already clean it from dust (remove the CPU and clean it and the RAM and the HD, clean everything without result)

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      • C
        Carnival Boy
        last edited by

        I don't consider 17C cold.

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        • IT-ADMINI
          IT-ADMIN @Carnival Boy
          last edited by

          @Carnival-Boy said:

          I don't consider 17C cold.

          the room is very small, 2m * 1.77m * 3m

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          • C
            Carnival Boy
            last edited by

            I'm no expert, but I'm pretty certain that whatever caused that PC to fail was nothing to do with the environment it was located in.

            I imagine computer manufacturers store new computers in warehouses that are colder than 17C for months on end, without worrying about damaging them.

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            • coliverC
              coliver
              last edited by

              Do you have servers in your server room? If they aren't breaking due to the cold your desktops are also most likely not affected... This just sounds like regular hardware failure. Have you looked up the model to see if it has a blink code?

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              • IT-ADMINI
                IT-ADMIN @coliver
                last edited by

                @coliver said:

                Do you have servers in your server room? If they aren't breaking due to the cold your desktops are also most likely not affected... This just sounds like regular hardware failure. Have you looked up the model to see if it has a blink code?

                but the servers are powered on not like stand by computers that are off

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                • IT-ADMINI
                  IT-ADMIN
                  last edited by

                  i mean no energy feed the system for a long time in a cold environment

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @Carnival Boy
                    last edited by

                    @Carnival-Boy said:

                    I don't consider 17C cold.

                    Nor do I. More "not hot."

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @Carnival Boy
                      last edited by

                      @Carnival-Boy said:

                      I'm no expert, but I'm pretty certain that whatever caused that PC to fail was nothing to do with the environment it was located in.

                      I imagine computer manufacturers store new computers in warehouses that are colder than 17C for months on end, without worrying about damaging them.

                      There would be extreme conditions that could lead to damage, but mostly only from super cold leading to condensation. Or temps above say 60C.

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                        scottalanmiller @coliver
                        last edited by

                        @coliver said:

                        Do you have servers in your server room? If they aren't breaking due to the cold your desktops are also most likely not affected... This just sounds like regular hardware failure. Have you looked up the model to see if it has a blink code?

                        Those would be warm at normal operating temps is why he is concerned.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
                          last edited by

                          @IT-ADMIN said:

                          i mean no energy feed the system for a long time in a cold environment

                          So here is what you need to know...

                          • Storing computers at any reasonable temp from really cold to 60C+ is absolutely fine while they are off. The only thing to be concerned about is rapid temp changes or condensation. Keep them dry, but not so dry that you get static shocks. Temp really does not matter while idle.
                          • What kills computers in regards to temps is either overheating while running (CPU melts) or temperate changes cause hard drives to warp. As long as the temp is not changing, you are fine.
                          • The time you are at risk is only if you have Winchester drives and you power on a cold machine and the drives have to heat up.
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                          • coliverC
                            coliver @IT-ADMIN
                            last edited by

                            @IT-ADMIN said:

                            i mean no energy feed the system for a long time in a cold environment

                            That shouldn't be an issue... that is roughly normal room temperature in most of upstate NY.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @coliver
                              last edited by

                              @coliver said:

                              @IT-ADMIN said:

                              i mean no energy feed the system for a long time in a cold environment

                              That shouldn't be an issue... that is roughly normal room temperature in most of upstate NY.

                              Yeah! That's totally room temps for half of the year. In the UK too. I've gone into hotels and had the rooms be below 17.

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                              • IT-ADMINI
                                IT-ADMIN
                                last edited by

                                so this issue has nothing to do with their previous location, but how we can explain that this computer was fine before taking it to the server room ??

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
                                  last edited by

                                  @IT-ADMIN said:

                                  so this issue has nothing to do with their previous location, but how we can explain that this computer was fine before taking it to the server room ??

                                  The times when servers are most like to die are not related to how they are stored but include:

                                  • When they are moved.
                                  • When they are powered on.
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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    Why do you need to explain anything? Hardware dies, do you have to explain why a car won't start after some years of wear and tear?

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                                    • IT-ADMINI
                                      IT-ADMIN @scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      Why do you need to explain anything? Hardware dies, do you have to explain why a car won't start after some years of wear and tear?

                                      lol, it is just a weird coincidence 🙂

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
                                        last edited by

                                        @IT-ADMIN said:

                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        Why do you need to explain anything? Hardware dies, do you have to explain why a car won't start after some years of wear and tear?

                                        lol, it is just a weird coincidence 🙂

                                        Not a coincidence at all. You powered on a machine that had been off... that's the time you expect things to fail. Nothing odd in any way.

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                                        • IT-ADMINI
                                          IT-ADMIN
                                          last edited by

                                          ok, i think the motherboard get damaged, i will take the data of the HD

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
                                            last edited by

                                            @IT-ADMIN said:

                                            ok, i think the motherboard get damaged, i will take the data of the HD

                                            What is going on with the machine? Are their failure indicator lights?

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