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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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      @BRRABill said:

      You still think it's a good risk not to have a second domain controller. I was able to stop the paperwork, so that will indeed save me $800 or so on a license and a few thousand on another server.

      In the light of day, it still seems like the right thing to do. That you can save the $800 makes it a pretty significant win.

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender
        last edited by

        if you split the load over two server, you're still loosing 50% of your stuff, and how usable is your business with one but not the other?

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        • BRRABillB
          BRRABill
          last edited by

          It was technically day yesterday when we decided.

          Not just the $800 ... also the cost of another server.

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @BRRABill
            last edited by

            @BRRABill said:

            It was technically day yesterday when we decided.

            Not just the $800 ... also the cost of another server.

            And power, and cooling, and management.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @BRRABill
              last edited by

              @BRRABill said:

              The only other thing I thought of was that if the server goes down, I lose my DC, and files serer, and mail server. But this new thing should be pretty darn reliable, so that's probably a good risk to take as well.

              Yes, of course, but those things are tied together, right? So if one goes down the others may be useless or at least decline in value? Better to have fewer things to fail and fail all at once much of the time than more things to fail that likely fail at different times. Only have one thing to keep running, one thing to fix and everything is up or down.

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              • BRRABillB
                BRRABill @Dashrender
                last edited by

                @Dashrender said:

                if you split the load over two server, you're still loosing 50% of your stuff, and how usable is your business with one but not the other?

                Yeah I guess I was thinking it would be easier to spin in up off a backup, but it wouldn't be that much worse to do it twice. Plus I am considering outsourcing the e-mail in the near future anyway.

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @BRRABill
                  last edited by

                  @BRRABill said:

                  @Dashrender said:

                  if you split the load over two server, you're still loosing 50% of your stuff, and how usable is your business with one but not the other?

                  Yeah I guess I was thinking it would be easier to spin in up off a backup, but it wouldn't be that much worse to do it twice. Plus I am considering outsourcing the e-mail in the near future anyway.

                  There shouldn't be a near future. NOW is when you should be doing it... You're already making a change. Change it all at once. One less move to do later.

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                  • BRRABillB
                    BRRABill
                    last edited by

                    OK, next comment from yesterday that got me thinking...

                    Someone mentioned about waiting for Server 2016.

                    Is THAT a good idea? Considering we aren't sure when it's coming out, and since I am moving from 2003 (not 2008), and I need an OS now...

                    I looked into Software Assurance but it adds about 50% to the cost, so not sure it is worth it.

                    Thoughts?

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                      last edited by

                      @BRRABill said:

                      Someone mentioned about waiting for Server 2016.

                      That was me.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                        last edited by

                        @BRRABill said:

                        Is THAT a good idea? Considering we aren't sure when it's coming out, and since I am moving from 2003 (not 2008), and I need an OS now...

                        I looked into Software Assurance but it adds about 50% to the cost, so not sure it is worth it.

                        If SA is not worth it and you've put up with 2003 this long, I would definitely wait. It's two years newer of an OS, that's a long time in IT equipment terms.

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender
                          last edited by

                          Server 2016 should be out the first part of next year (heck we could still see it this year).

                          I'd say wait unless you want to buy SA (not only for server, but also for the CALs)

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                          • BRRABillB
                            BRRABill
                            last edited by

                            Then I would have a new server sitting around for a few months, and probably a lot of questions.

                            😮

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender @BRRABill
                              last edited by

                              @BRRABill said:

                              Then I would have a new server sitting around for a few months, and probably a lot of questions.

                              😮

                              LOL - we didn't tell you to order the server now 😛 Kidding of course. You're not the first, nor will you be the last to come to a forum and say " hey I have this stuff, this was my thinking" only to be told that wasn't really the smart/correct way to go about things.

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender
                                last edited by

                                If you want, you can install Hyper-V 2012R2 now, and P2V some of the old servers to it...
                                Then when Windows 2016 is released, buy it, then do the actual software side migration. At least for now it would look like you're using the hardware, which you would be.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                                  last edited by

                                  @BRRABill said:

                                  Then I would have a new server sitting around for a few months, and probably a lot of questions.

                                  😮

                                  You could practice with HyperV 🙂 Give you time to decide if you prefer HyperV or XenServer.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                    last edited by

                                    @Dashrender said:

                                    If you want, you can install Hyper-V 2012R2 now, and P2V some of the old servers to it...
                                    Then when Windows 2016 is released, buy it, then do the actual software side migration. At least for now it would look like you're using the hardware, which you would be.

                                    Might make extra work when he is ready to move up to 2016, though.

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender
                                      last edited by

                                      absolutely true, but if management is hounding him...

                                      One thing, he'll get practice P2Ving, and upgrading Hyper-V that way.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        True 🙂 He could practice that without moving production over too 🙂

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by

                                          Or he could use the spare time to move to hosted email and eliminate that from the migration process when 2016 releases 🙂

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            Or he could use the spare time to move to hosted email and eliminate that from the migration process when 2016 releases 🙂

                                            OK that covers one day.. what else? 😉

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