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    Help choosing replacement Hyper-V host machines and connected storage

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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      If you don't need redundant servers for high availability, then going down to a single R720xd or R730xd is all that you need. One server, only two CPUs. Fraction of the cost of what we have been proposing, way easier to manage, tiny fraction of the power that you are burning up today.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @JohnFromSTL
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        @JohnFromSTL said:

        Did I list each of the servers I'm currently using?

        You listed two of them. Two R900s.

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          JohnFromSTL @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said:

          @dafyre said:

          I currently have a Dell R720xd running Hyper-V 2012R2. It works really really well. Not sure on the price tag, but that is a nicely built system. Raid controller can do RAID 10, and RAID 6 in addition to the others... Add ram to meet your needs.

          We have a monster R720xd with 128GB too. Sweet machine. R730xd has even bigger CPU options.

          @scottalanmiller, @dafyre Which CPU and how much RAM is installed in your R720xd server?

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @JohnFromSTL
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            @JohnFromSTL said:

            @scottalanmiller said:

            @dafyre said:

            I currently have a Dell R720xd running Hyper-V 2012R2. It works really really well. Not sure on the price tag, but that is a nicely built system. Raid controller can do RAID 10, and RAID 6 in addition to the others... Add ram to meet your needs.

            We have a monster R720xd with 128GB too. Sweet machine. R730xd has even bigger CPU options.

            @scottalanmiller, @dafyre Which CPU and how much RAM is installed in your R720xd server?

            Not sure on the CPU in ours. I know it is 128GB of RAM.

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              JohnFromSTL @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said:

              @JohnFromSTL said:

              @scottalanmiller said:

              @dafyre said:

              I currently have a Dell R720xd running Hyper-V 2012R2. It works really really well. Not sure on the price tag, but that is a nicely built system. Raid controller can do RAID 10, and RAID 6 in addition to the others... Add ram to meet your needs.

              We have a monster R720xd with 128GB too. Sweet machine. R730xd has even bigger CPU options.

              @scottalanmiller, @dafyre Which CPU and how much RAM is installed in your R720xd server?

              Not sure on the CPU in ours. I know it is 128GB of RAM.

              Does yours have the 2.5" or 3.5" drive option?

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @JohnFromSTL
                last edited by

                @JohnFromSTL said:

                @scottalanmiller said:

                @JohnFromSTL said:

                @scottalanmiller said:

                @dafyre said:

                I currently have a Dell R720xd running Hyper-V 2012R2. It works really really well. Not sure on the price tag, but that is a nicely built system. Raid controller can do RAID 10, and RAID 6 in addition to the others... Add ram to meet your needs.

                We have a monster R720xd with 128GB too. Sweet machine. R730xd has even bigger CPU options.

                @scottalanmiller, @dafyre Which CPU and how much RAM is installed in your R720xd server?

                Not sure on the CPU in ours. I know it is 128GB of RAM.

                Does yours have the 2.5" or 3.5" drive option?

                3.5". The 12 LFF plus 2 SFF option is really nice.

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                  JohnFromSTL @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  @JohnFromSTL said:

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  @JohnFromSTL said:

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  @dafyre said:

                  I currently have a Dell R720xd running Hyper-V 2012R2. It works really really well. Not sure on the price tag, but that is a nicely built system. Raid controller can do RAID 10, and RAID 6 in addition to the others... Add ram to meet your needs.

                  We have a monster R720xd with 128GB too. Sweet machine. R730xd has even bigger CPU options.

                  @scottalanmiller, @dafyre Which CPU and how much RAM is installed in your R720xd server?

                  Not sure on the CPU in ours. I know it is 128GB of RAM.

                  Does yours have the 2.5" or 3.5" drive option?

                  3.5". The 12 LFF plus 2 SFF option is really nice.

                  The Dell Outlet has several nicely equipped machines for under $5,000, but I'm not sure about using nearline SAS.

                  Processor: Intel Xeon E5-2620 Processor (2.00GHz, 15M Cache, 7.2GT/s QPI, Turbo, 6C, 95W, Max Mem 1333MHz,OEM,XL)
                  Processor: Intel Xeon E5-2620 Processor (2.00GHz, 15M Cache, 7.2GT/s QPI, Turbo, 6C, 95W, Max Mem 1333MHz,OEM,XL)
                  2 TB 7.2K RPM Near-Line SAS 6Gbps 3.5in Hotplug Hard Drive [QTY : 12]
                  300GB 10K RPM SAS 6Gbps 2.5in Hot-plug Hard Drive [QTY : 2]
                  8GB RDIMM, 1600MT/s, Low Volt, Dual Rank, x8 Data Width [QTY : 4]
                  Intel Ethernet I350 QP 1Gb Network Daughter Card

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @JohnFromSTL
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                    @JohnFromSTL said:

                    The Dell Outlet has several nicely equipped machines for under $5,000, but I'm not sure about using nearline SAS.

                    What is your concern with NL-SAS?

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                      JohnFromSTL @scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      @JohnFromSTL said:

                      The Dell Outlet has several nicely equipped machines for under $5,000, but I'm not sure about using nearline SAS.

                      What is your concern with NL-SAS?

                      Are they fast enough?

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @JohnFromSTL
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                        @JohnFromSTL said:

                        Are they fast enough?

                        Oh okay. Well they are half the speed of 15K 🙂

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender @JohnFromSTL
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                          @JohnFromSTL said:

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          @JohnFromSTL said:

                          The Dell Outlet has several nicely equipped machines for under $5,000, but I'm not sure about using nearline SAS.

                          What is your concern with NL-SAS?

                          Are they fast enough?

                          Do you know the IOPs load you need to support?

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller
                            last edited by

                            Figuring out the IOPS needs is key. Without that we are guessing quite a bit.

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                              JohnFromSTL @Dashrender
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                              @Dashrender said:

                              @JohnFromSTL said:

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              @JohnFromSTL said:

                              The Dell Outlet has several nicely equipped machines for under $5,000, but I'm not sure about using nearline SAS.

                              What is your concern with NL-SAS?

                              Are they fast enough?

                              Do you know the IOPs load you need to support?

                              I'll have to gather and calculate the info from our 3 SQL machines.

                              Does this page show the best way to determine current IO details?
                              http://www.sqltuners.net/blog/13-05-16/Measuring_Disk_IO_performance_for_SQL_Servers.aspx

                              The page suggested using the following select statement to obtain the required information.

                              SELECT
                              *
                              ,wait_time_ms/waiting_tasks_count AS 'Avg Wait in ms'
                              FROM
                              sys.dm_os_wait_stats
                              WHERE
                              waiting_tasks_count > 0
                              ORDER BY
                              wait_time_ms DESC

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                                JohnFromSTL
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                                Thanks everyone!! I've got to leave for the day, I'll try and connect back to work later tonight.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @JohnFromSTL
                                  last edited by

                                  @JohnFromSTL said:

                                  Thanks everyone!! I've got to leave for the day, I'll try and connect back to work later tonight.

                                  Have a good evening, "see" you later.

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                                    Jhon.Smith
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                                    Hello John,

                                    In you case i think StarWind Virtual SAN will fit perfectly. Thus we are glad to offer you our NFR license. You can get it by filling in this form and providing a link to this forum thread in it.
                                    https://www.starwindsoftware.com/starwind-virtual-san-for-mvp-mct

                                    Unfortunately NFR license will be provided to OP only (at least for now).

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                                      JohnFromSTL @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      Figuring out the IOPS needs is key. Without that we are guessing quite a bit.

                                      To be completely honest with all of you, we have not calculated the IOPS on our SQL machines.

                                      This page has some tips (http://www.sqltuners.net/blog/13-05-16/Measuring_Disk_IO_performance_for_SQL_Servers.aspx) but is there a tool or PowerShell command which people normally use to collect the data?

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender
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                                        If you're looking to buy Dell Equipment (even if you aren't) you can open the process with Dell, get their DPack and that will tell you your current usage.

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                                          JohnFromSTL @Dashrender
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                                          @Dashrender said:

                                          If you're looking to buy Dell Equipment (even if you aren't) you can open the process with Dell, get their DPack and that will tell you your current usage.

                                          Sweet, I'm looking into that right now. BTW, I really do appreciate how helpful all of you have been.

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                                            Dashrender @JohnFromSTL
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                                            @JohnFromSTL said:

                                            Sweet, I'm looking into that right now. BTW, I really do appreciate how helpful all of you have been.

                                            This is what most of us want from this community.

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