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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender
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      At $3.50/device/month - it's pretty damned expensive. Hell when you compare it to something like O365, it's ungodly expensive!

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      • Deleted74295D
        Deleted74295 Banned
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        I have to agree.

        For the price of Pertino for our clients, they can buy a fricken Sonicwall with all the crazy licenses for gateway AV and still get VPN connectivity.

        Bearing in mind, they could buy the Sonicwall each year...brand new.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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          @Dashrender said:

          At $3.50/device/month - it's pretty damned expensive. Hell when you compare it to something like O365, it's ungodly expensive!

          They can charge what they want, they have no competition 🙂

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          • Deleted74295D
            Deleted74295 Banned
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            Not yet.

            The problem with Pertino is they are enjoying the monopoly, until someone breaks that monopoly and forces them to change tactic, by then they might have already lost too many leads due to their pricing.

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            • dafyreD
              dafyre
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              For everyone "stuck" with Pertino, I encourage you to check out ZeroTier. (www.zerotier.com) It's free for up to 10 devices so you can tinker around with it... If you decide to go with ZT, it is $4 per Network that you create... no per device charges.

              Check it out and see if it will work for you... (God, I sound like a sales rep, lol... I'm not, I promise... I just really like their service!)

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              • coliverC
                coliver @dafyre
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                @dafyre said:

                For everyone "stuck" with Pertino, I encourage you to check out ZeroTier. (www.zerotier.com) It's free for up to 10 devices so you can tinker around with it... If you decide to go with ZT, it is $4 per Network that you create... no per device charges.

                Check it out and see if it will work for you... (God, I sound like a sales rep, lol... I'm not, I promise... I just really like their service!)

                That's what @Dashrender is having issues with right now.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
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                  ZeroTier does not appear to have Pertino functionality and it is Pertino functionality that he needs.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller
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                    @Dashrender how many end points would you need to put on Pertino?

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender
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                      The owner, soon to be division CEO of Lastpass was on Security Now yesterday.

                      One of the things he mentioned was that he hoped to get Himachi under his umbrella and bring it back to life. I'm not sure what that has to do with identity, but he felt that they were related and could bring new life to LogMeIn.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                        last edited by

                        @Dashrender said:

                        The owner, soon to be division CEO of Lastpass was on Security Now yesterday.

                        One of the things he mentioned was that he hoped to get Himachi under his umbrella and bring it back to life. I'm not sure what that has to do with identity, but he felt that they were related and could bring new life to LogMeIn.

                        Hamachi has identical issues to ZeroTier here and LMI has no engineering talent left or else they would get LMI working instead of it slowly dying off. Hamachi has been dead for nearly a decade, it's time to bury those products.

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                        • dafyreD
                          dafyre
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                          One thing you may want to check is that your LAN / Wireless connections are above the ZeroTier interface under Network Connections -> Advanced Settings

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                            last edited by

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            @Dashrender said:

                            The owner, soon to be division CEO of Lastpass was on Security Now yesterday.

                            One of the things he mentioned was that he hoped to get Himachi under his umbrella and bring it back to life. I'm not sure what that has to do with identity, but he felt that they were related and could bring new life to LogMeIn.

                            Hamachi has identical issues to ZeroTier here and LMI has no engineering talent left or else they would get LMI working instead of it slowly dying off. Hamachi has been dead for nearly a decade, it's time to bury those products.

                            I hear what you are saying - I think this is why LMI bought Lastpass. The LP guys still have fire in their belly. Hopefully they can turn things around...

                            The problem I have with them is their pricing structure. The product has always been solid for me.

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender @dafyre
                              last edited by

                              @dafyre said:

                              One thing you may want to check is that your LAN / Wireless connections are above the ZeroTier interface under Network Connections -> Advanced Settings

                              One Million +'s to you bro! I'm sure that will majorly help some issues!

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                @Dashrender said:

                                I hear what you are saying - I think this is why LMI bought Lastpass. The LP guys still have fire in their belly. Hopefully they can turn things around...

                                Engineering can't fix ethics. LastPass has zero ability to fix LogMeIn.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                  @Dashrender said:

                                  The problem I have with them is their pricing structure. The product has always been solid for me.

                                  The problems we have are these, in this order:

                                  • Ethics
                                  • Pricing
                                  • Product

                                  In theory they can fix the last two, but seems totally unlikely at this point. The first is a core "that is who they are as a business" issue that can't be fixed.

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                                  • dafyreD
                                    dafyre
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                                    Another thing (while not a clean solution), you could also test using netbios names as opposed to FQDNs. I am asking the ZeroTier guys what we can do about this. 🙂

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      @Dashrender said:

                                      I hear what you are saying - I think this is why LMI bought Lastpass. The LP guys still have fire in their belly. Hopefully they can turn things around...

                                      Engineering can't fix ethics. LastPass has zero ability to fix LogMeIn.

                                      and mentioning ethics, I'm assuming you're talking about how they promised LMI Free would be free forever.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @dafyre
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                                        @dafyre said:

                                        Another thing (while not a clean solution), you could also test using netbios names as opposed to FQDNs. I am asking the ZeroTier guys what we can do about this. 🙂

                                        Why are they not in the community?

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                                          Jason Banned @Dashrender
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                                          @Dashrender said:

                                          and mentioning ethics, I'm assuming you're talking about how they promised LMI Free would be free forever.

                                          Technically it was free forever, til the end of the LMI free products life.

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender @dafyre
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                                            @dafyre said:

                                            Another thing (while not a clean solution), you could also test using netbios names as opposed to FQDNs. I am asking the ZeroTier guys what we can do about this. 🙂

                                            lol - I started by pinging servername - but that was converted to the FQDN and then the ZT IP was found.

                                            What was weird, once I removed IPv6 from the server I was trying to ping from, then suddenly I was getting the IP I was expecting.

                                            The ability for the system to jump from protocol to protocol (IPv4, IPv6, NetBIOS) definitely complicates things.

                                            Even more weird.. I have no IPv6 entries in my local DNS servers, yet it is enabled in most of my client workstations and a few of my servers.. WTF?

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