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    • NicN
      Nic
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      Good - I saw a good comment on reddit about it: Would there be this much controversy if he'd contributed to the KKK or something similar?

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      • Bill KindleB
        Bill Kindle @Nic
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        @Nic said:

        Good - I saw a good comment on reddit about it: Would there be this much controversy if he'd contributed to the KKK or something similar?

        Who know's. I'm just leery of selective outrage.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @Bill Kindle
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          @Bill-Kindle said:

          @Nic said:

          Good - I saw a good comment on reddit about it: Would there be this much controversy if he'd contributed to the KKK or something similar?

          Who know's. I'm just leery of selective outrage.

          What outrage isn't selective?

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          • NicN
            Nic @scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            @scottalanmiller said:

            @Bill-Kindle said:

            @Nic said:

            Good - I saw a good comment on reddit about it: Would there be this much controversy if he'd contributed to the KKK or something similar?

            Who know's. I'm just leery of selective outrage.

            What outrage isn't selective?

            I'm outraged at everything!

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            • Seth CooperS
              Seth Cooper
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              Fury is best served unbridled.

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              • Chad K.C
                Chad K. @Bill Kindle
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                @Bill-Kindle
                No it does not make them Mozillas. Mozilla is a business, it does not have any religion. No matter what.

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                • Chad K.C
                  Chad K. @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller
                  He wasn't CEO when he donated the money.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @Chad K.
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                    @Chad-K. said:

                    @scottalanmiller
                    He wasn't CEO when he donated the money.

                    Does that matter? He chose to impact his career and the board opted to allow it to have happened.

                    Just like things you say online or tattoos you are making a permanent decision when you do these things. Honestly it makes him an idiot and a bad candidate for CEO - it shows a horrible understanding of actions and consequences. Not a failing one wants in a leader.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @Seth Cooper
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                      @Seth-Cooper said:

                      Fury is best served unbridled.

                      True. Rage like a wild stallion.

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                      • Chad K.C
                        Chad K. @Bill Kindle
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                        @Bill-Kindle
                        It's hypocritical to be against equality personally and work for an organization that promotes it. People will look at the situation and say "How long until he changes the organization in a way that pulls it away from where it is and toward those views that are in opposition to the companies history and stated ambitions". This isn't good for business.

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                        • PSX_DefectorP
                          PSX_Defector @Nic
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                          @Nic said:

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          @Bill-Kindle said:

                          @Nic said:

                          Good - I saw a good comment on reddit about it: Would there be this much controversy if he'd contributed to the KKK or something similar?

                          Who know's. I'm just leery of selective outrage.

                          What outrage isn't selective?

                          I'm outraged at everything!

                          outrage.jpg

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                          • Chad K.C
                            Chad K. @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            @Chad-K. said:

                            @scottalanmiller
                            He wasn't CEO when he donated the money.

                            Does that matter? He chose to impact his career and the board opted to allow it to have happened.

                            Just like things you say online or tattoos you are making a permanent decision when you do these things. Honestly it makes him an idiot and a bad candidate for CEO - it shows a horrible understanding of actions and consequences. Not a failing one wants in a leader.
                            Only in that he didn't do it as CEO

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                            • Bill KindleB
                              Bill Kindle @Chad K.
                              last edited by

                              @Chad-K. said:

                              @Bill-Kindle
                              It's hypocritical to be against equality personally and work for an organization that promotes it. People will look at the situation and say "How long until he changes the organization in a way that pulls it away from where it is and toward those views that are in opposition to the companies history and stated ambitions". This isn't good for business.

                              But at the same time doesn't it alienate the same people who may hold different beliefs? Isn't that the same thing? like role reversal?

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                              • Bill KindleB
                                Bill Kindle @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                @Chad-K. said:

                                @scottalanmiller
                                He wasn't CEO when he donated the money.

                                Does that matter? He chose to impact his career and the board opted to allow it to have happened.

                                Just like things you say online or tattoos you are making a permanent decision when you do these things. Honestly it makes him an idiot and a bad candidate for CEO - it shows a horrible understanding of actions and consequences. Not a failing one wants in a leader.

                                So he does something long before he was a CEO. I've made some bad decisions life (who hasn't?) but does that make me an eternal idiot and unqualified to run a company?

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller
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                                  If it is on this scale, which is pretty huge, yes, it would generally disqualify you from running a public company or being a spokesperson for one. People who intend to make CEO a career objective have to be planning for that their entire life. No different than running for office.

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                                  • NicN
                                    Nic @Bill Kindle
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                                    @Bill-Kindle said:

                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    @Chad-K. said:

                                    @scottalanmiller
                                    He wasn't CEO when he donated the money.

                                    Does that matter? He chose to impact his career and the board opted to allow it to have happened.

                                    Just like things you say online or tattoos you are making a permanent decision when you do these things. Honestly it makes him an idiot and a bad candidate for CEO - it shows a horrible understanding of actions and consequences. Not a failing one wants in a leader.

                                    So he does something long before he was a CEO. I've made some bad decisions life (who hasn't?) but does that make me an eternal idiot and unqualified to run a company?

                                    He could have survived if he'd apologized. But he gave a non-apology, which means he's still a homophobe.

                                    @Bill-Kindle said:

                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    @Chad-K. said:

                                    @scottalanmiller
                                    He wasn't CEO when he donated the money.

                                    Does that matter? He chose to impact his career and the board opted to allow it to have happened.

                                    Just like things you say online or tattoos you are making a permanent decision when you do these things. Honestly it makes him an idiot and a bad candidate for CEO - it shows a horrible understanding of actions and consequences. Not a failing one wants in a leader.

                                    So he does something long before he was a CEO. I've made some bad decisions life (who hasn't?) but does that make me an eternal idiot and unqualified to run a company?

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller
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                                      Remember, political contributions are public record. This is him doing something voluntary that has similarities to an arrest record. It was a massive, foolish professional risk. And for what purpose?

                                      This is someone who wanted to promote this agenda so strongly that he willingly risked his career over it. This isn't drinking too much on a weekend. This isn't a tattoo. This is truly a big deal both in his actions and his understanding of their ramifications to himself and his employer.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller
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                                        Yes. He had a way to fix this but didn't. He has his priorities and that's "fine". He is allowed to be that guy. And everyone else is allowed to be offended and upset with someone that employees him. He spoke with his wallet and his customers spoke with theirs.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by

                                          Came across another perspective on the situation today:

                                          http://eyeonlinux.com/linux-commentary/did-brendan-eich-do-the-right-thing-by-stepping-down-as-mozillas-ceo/

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                                          • Bill KindleB
                                            Bill Kindle @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            Came across another perspective on the situation today:

                                            http://eyeonlinux.com/linux-commentary/did-brendan-eich-do-the-right-thing-by-stepping-down-as-mozillas-ceo/

                                            That's exactly how I feel. What we are seeing is tolerance through intolerance I believe.

                                            http://www.str.org/articles/the-intolerance-of-tolerance#.U0BKEPnIYlQ

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