Trying to see if I can come. @scottalanmiller knows I'm from Batavia, NY which sits smack in the middle of Buffalo and Rochester and this would be a PERFECT reason to stop by my home town. Unfortunately, there are two other HPE events that same week, both of which have requested my presence. Me sad. Maybe I should see if the Bills are playing - that could push me over the edge to skip the HPE events!

Ok - here's what I hope is an immediate workaround to your license issues. Go download the bits from here and get the 60 day evaluation license. That will get you working and give you breathing room to figure out what's up with the license.

Log in with your HPE Passport to download the eval license and note the download for the installation instructions.

In the Server quickspecs the DL380p G8 are available here. In that document, you're looking for the Advanced iLO license. Note there are different SKUs for the licenses so pick the one that you need. Here's what is on that page:

So I think the one you want is BG505A (I think you're in the US, right?). If I understand, you'll get an email with the license key.

@scottalanmiller I gave you 3 years. I'll have to check on what 5 years costs. Will be later today - winter has hit and I'm out getting snow tires at Costco. This could take 3 years!

@scottalanmiller The 5 year license includes 5 years of support. The 10TB 5 year LTU is $5835 US list.

BTW, do you have a Case ID with HPE Support?

@travisdh1 said:

@iLOguy Nice to hear that someone is correcting the docs, don't always see that happening.

Our process to update stuff is a PITA but we do fix errors when we have them. Just might take a while. One of the downsides of being a huge company.

I haven't seen data about performance of RAID 5 vs RAID 1 with SSD but the typical "read-modify-write" penalty you get with RAID 5 shouldn't hurt too much with SSD latency. For me, the question is as much about capacity as performance. If you use 2 SSDs in RAID 1, the capacity is half what you giet if you use all three in RAID 5. To show this, let's assume the drives are 1TB:

• 3 drives, RAID 5 (2+1) = 2TB useable capacity. You also have the benefit of 3 SSDs involved in every read. There isn't a "spare" sitting around waiting for a failure" - you're using all 3 drives.

• 2 drives, RAID 1 = 1TB useable capacity. If you can use RAID 10, you'd have the benefit of 2 SSDs in on every IO. You of course had the spare drive if there's a failure. However, the reliability of SSDs we've seen is that they are much better than HDD so you might never need this spare drive.

So without really knowing anything about your workload, I'd lean toward RAID 5.

Wouldn't be hard to add StoreVirtual VSA to this compare - if you're interested, I can help. Licensing is pretty easy: 3 X 4TB bundle is $3,000 US List and the 10TB license is $3500 US List. Both of these include support and assume bring your own hardware.

If you're inclined to include it and need more information, drop me an email with what you need. With lots of people starting to take time off, might take me longer than normal but happy to help.

@scottalanmiller The 5 year license includes 5 years of support. The 10TB 5 year LTU is $5835 US list.

@scottalanmiller I gave you 3 years. I'll have to check on what 5 years costs. Will be later today - winter has hit and I'm out getting snow tires at Costco. This could take 3 years!

Wouldn't be hard to add StoreVirtual VSA to this compare - if you're interested, I can help. Licensing is pretty easy: 3 X 4TB bundle is $3,000 US List and the 10TB license is $3500 US List. Both of these include support and assume bring your own hardware.

If you're inclined to include it and need more information, drop me an email with what you need. With lots of people starting to take time off, might take me longer than normal but happy to help.

How much data are you talking about? Is this data something that will seldom if ever be read again?

I do a lot of video projects. Once I'm done with those core assets (video, audio, images, etc), I archive them to an LTO-6 tape drive I have using LTFS. What I really like about it is that with LTFS, it's a drag and drop interface. I don't have any experience using M-Disc but I'm biased toward tape. Here's a page on hpe.com that talks more about LTFS. If you have specific questions, happy to answer them.

Depending on how much data your talking about, you can probably get LTO-5 or LTO-6 at a decent price since the latest generation is LTO-7.

Trying to see if I can come. @scottalanmiller knows I'm from Batavia, NY which sits smack in the middle of Buffalo and Rochester and this would be a PERFECT reason to stop by my home town. Unfortunately, there are two other HPE events that same week, both of which have requested my presence. Me sad. Maybe I should see if the Bills are playing - that could push me over the edge to skip the HPE events!

I haven't seen data about performance of RAID 5 vs RAID 1 with SSD but the typical "read-modify-write" penalty you get with RAID 5 shouldn't hurt too much with SSD latency. For me, the question is as much about capacity as performance. If you use 2 SSDs in RAID 1, the capacity is half what you giet if you use all three in RAID 5. To show this, let's assume the drives are 1TB:

• 3 drives, RAID 5 (2+1) = 2TB useable capacity. You also have the benefit of 3 SSDs involved in every read. There isn't a "spare" sitting around waiting for a failure" - you're using all 3 drives.

• 2 drives, RAID 1 = 1TB useable capacity. If you can use RAID 10, you'd have the benefit of 2 SSDs in on every IO. You of course had the spare drive if there's a failure. However, the reliability of SSDs we've seen is that they are much better than HDD so you might never need this spare drive.

So without really knowing anything about your workload, I'd lean toward RAID 5.

@travisdh1 said:

@iLOguy Nice to hear that someone is correcting the docs, don't always see that happening.

Our process to update stuff is a PITA but we do fix errors when we have them. Just might take a while. One of the downsides of being a huge company.

Ok - here's what I hope is an immediate workaround to your license issues. Go download the bits from here and get the 60 day evaluation license. That will get you working and give you breathing room to figure out what's up with the license.

Log in with your HPE Passport to download the eval license and note the download for the installation instructions.

In the Server quickspecs the DL380p G8 are available here. In that document, you're looking for the Advanced iLO license. Note there are different SKUs for the licenses so pick the one that you need. Here's what is on that page:

So I think the one you want is BG505A (I think you're in the US, right?). If I understand, you'll get an email with the license key.

BTW, do you have a Case ID with HPE Support?

I went asking for help and got back this HPE iLO Licensing Guide that just went live this morning. Again, since I'm out of my league here, let me know if this helps.