So we are leaving..............
-
@scottalanmiller said in So we are leaving..............:
And don't get me wrong, I don't think that the UK is "better together" but I also don't feel that the US is "better together." I'm a pro-Texas independence thinker and also feel that the west and east coasts should not be a unified nation but rather a group of loosely affiliated regions more like the EU than the current US. Too much difference between the regions ideologically.
Here here! The main thing that concerns me with a break up of the US, is what happens to the fly over states? Would they actually have more or less money then they have today?
-
The EU will do whatever it takes to punish the UK. They can't allow a successful Brexit or other nations will follow.
-
@IRJ said in So we are leaving..............:
The EU will do whatever it takes to punish the UK. They can't allow a successful Brexit or other nations will follow.
that's seems much less likely if for no other reason than the shared currency, but I have no idea what I'm talking about - so ignore me.
-
@BRRABill said in So we are leaving..............:
@scottalanmiller said
Not shocked at all, I've predicted this since the referendum was called. From the US side, it looks firmly like the UK was looking to Trump and following the US election and using that propaganda at home. Trump certainly can be president and I honestly think is likely to be.
If you look at the reasoning for the exit, it sounds like Trump wrote it.
If they do not help make it a success, they will lose out on the money from the UK and will be unable to support the EU. Either way, sounds like EU has some difficult times ahead too.
-
Was supposed to quote:
"The EU will do whatever it takes to punish the UK. They can't allow a successful Brexit or other nations will follow"
-
@IRJ said in So we are leaving..............:
The EU will do whatever it takes to punish the UK. They can't allow a successful Brexit or other nations will follow.
Like that then?
-
@NattNatt said in So we are leaving..............:
@IRJ said in So we are leaving..............:
The EU will do whatever it takes to punish the UK. They can't allow a successful Brexit or other nations will follow.
Like that then?
I'm not really sure what this even means?
-
It means that the EU will try to punish the UK for leaving, and will try to deny them the ability to rejoin the EU.
He's saying the EU is better off without the UK, and they can go suck eggs.
-
@DustinB3403 said in So we are leaving..............:
It means that the EU will try to punish the UK for leaving, and will try to deny them the ability to rejoin the EU.
He's saying the EU is better off without the UK, and they can go suck eggs.
Yep. The EU has no choice not matter how much they need the UK. They have to pretend like they don't.
-
You know, I know so little about this. I think I'm going to read up on it. I didn't really understand why there was a EU to begin with and my uneducated point of view had me a bit worried about it.
-
@DustinB3403 said in So we are leaving..............:
It means that the EU will try to punish the UK for leaving, and will try to deny them the ability to rejoin the EU.
He's saying the EU is better off without the UK, and they can go suck eggs.
not even rejoining the EU, it means we won't be able to stay with the single-market - that is an agreement between the EU countries and a few outside countries that never joined the EU - where basically they can trade between themselves without having to pay tax, but get better rates and preferential treatment etc...part of the Leave campain's rhetoric was that we could still be a part of that...
-
@Son-of-Jor-El said in So we are leaving..............:
You know, I know so little about this. I think I'm going to read up on it. I didn't really understand why there was a EU to begin with and my uneducated point of view had me a bit worried about it.
Because they didn't want there to be a reason to have anymore massive wars. They wanted peace and unity. Since the EU was formed, there has been 0 conflict between any of the member states...the longest period of peace in the region for hundreds of years or longer... It has so many positives to its member states, the European Convention of Human Rights and the open market agreement, freedom of movement and many more
-
@NattNatt said in So we are leaving..............:
@Son-of-Jor-El said in So we are leaving..............:
You know, I know so little about this. I think I'm going to read up on it. I didn't really understand why there was a EU to begin with and my uneducated point of view had me a bit worried about it.
Because they didn't want there to be a reason to have anymore massive wars. They wanted peace and unity. Since the EU was formed, there has been 0 conflict between any of the member states...the longest period of peace in the region for hundreds of years or longer... It has so many positives to its member states, the European Convention of Human Rights and the open market agreement, freedom of movement and many more
OK, so before I form any opinions, why would Britain leave? They don't strike me as war mongers. LOL
-
@Son-of-Jor-El said in So we are leaving..............:
@NattNatt said in So we are leaving..............:
@Son-of-Jor-El said in So we are leaving..............:
You know, I know so little about this. I think I'm going to read up on it. I didn't really understand why there was a EU to begin with and my uneducated point of view had me a bit worried about it.
Because they didn't want there to be a reason to have anymore massive wars. They wanted peace and unity. Since the EU was formed, there has been 0 conflict between any of the member states...the longest period of peace in the region for hundreds of years or longer... It has so many positives to its member states, the European Convention of Human Rights and the open market agreement, freedom of movement and many more
OK, so before I form any opinions, why would Britain leave? They don't strike me as war mongers. LOL
Because the EU was destroying this nation.
-
@Jimmy9008 said in So we are leaving..............:
@Son-of-Jor-El said in So we are leaving..............:
@NattNatt said in So we are leaving..............:
@Son-of-Jor-El said in So we are leaving..............:
You know, I know so little about this. I think I'm going to read up on it. I didn't really understand why there was a EU to begin with and my uneducated point of view had me a bit worried about it.
Because they didn't want there to be a reason to have anymore massive wars. They wanted peace and unity. Since the EU was formed, there has been 0 conflict between any of the member states...the longest period of peace in the region for hundreds of years or longer... It has so many positives to its member states, the European Convention of Human Rights and the open market agreement, freedom of movement and many more
OK, so before I form any opinions, why would Britain leave? They don't strike me as war mongers. LOL
Because the EU was destroying this nation.
not that I agree or disagree - please explain how?
-
@Jimmy9008 said in So we are leaving..............:
@Son-of-Jor-El said in So we are leaving..............:
@NattNatt said in So we are leaving..............:
@Son-of-Jor-El said in So we are leaving..............:
You know, I know so little about this. I think I'm going to read up on it. I didn't really understand why there was a EU to begin with and my uneducated point of view had me a bit worried about it.
Because they didn't want there to be a reason to have anymore massive wars. They wanted peace and unity. Since the EU was formed, there has been 0 conflict between any of the member states...the longest period of peace in the region for hundreds of years or longer... It has so many positives to its member states, the European Convention of Human Rights and the open market agreement, freedom of movement and many more
OK, so before I form any opinions, why would Britain leave? They don't strike me as war mongers. LOL
Because the EU was destroying this nation.
And... how exactly?
-
You can find more online rather than me typing it all out, but one thing that really made me angry as an example is this (from a while ago, but still):
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-29754168
^ £1.7 Billion Bill in 2014 from the EU. Most other countries got payment to them, including Germany who have a better economy. Cameron said he wouldn't pay, but, oh look - he paid:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3237073/Cameron-Osborne-quietly-pay-1-7BILLION-bill-Brussels-dismisses-totally-unacceptable.htmlQuite how Greece, who were totally up **** creek got a £70m bill to pay, I don't know. Sure EU, it makes sense to hit a country that is totally screwed already with a bill. That makes LOADS of sense. Italy too that are in trouble were billed £268m. Its like we were fined for doing well and had to help the rest! Do better yourself rather than us. This time we cant help you as we are gone soon.
Just do your own research about the different issues.
-
Damnit UK....
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2016/06/24/japan-brexit-damage-control/86326262/
The yen dropped under 100 JPY : 1 USD
-
Interesting. I was also reading France may look for a vote to leave if the elections next year go a certain way. The Dutch too.
Like I said, trying not to form the opinion just yet but it seems like the EU is crumbing and it's the big boys wanting to leave.
-
@Son-of-Jor-El said in So we are leaving..............:
Interesting. I was also reading France may look for a vote to leave if the elections next year go a certain way. The Dutch too.
Like I said, trying not to form the opinion just yet but it seems like the EU is crumbing and it's the big boys wanting to leave.
The EU never stabilized. TO much national politics and not enough standardization.
