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    The Four Things That You Lose with Scale Computing HC3

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      MattSpeller @craig.theriac
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      @craig.theriac Thank you, I will dive in

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        scale @MattSpeller
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        @MattSpeller said in The Four Things That You Lose with Scale Computing HC3:

        @craig.theriac Thank you, I will dive in

        Any specific questions that I can answer for you?

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          Alex Sage @scale
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          @scale said:

          Any specific questions that I can answer for you?

          Do you have a affordable solution for small businesses that doesn't cost 25K?

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            coliver @Alex Sage
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            @aaronstuder said in The Four Things That You Lose with Scale Computing HC3:

            @scale said:

            Any specific questions that I can answer for you?

            Do you have a affordable solution for small businesses that doesn't cost 25K?

            25K isn't affordable? I'm not sure why you would look at Scale in a single host environment. This solution doesn't seem to fit there.

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              dafyre @coliver
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              @coliver said in The Four Things That You Lose with Scale Computing HC3:

              @aaronstuder said in The Four Things That You Lose with Scale Computing HC3:

              @scale said:

              Any specific questions that I can answer for you?

              Do you have a affordable solution for small businesses that doesn't cost 25K?

              25K isn't affordable? I'm not sure why you would look at Scale in a single host environment. This solution doesn't seem to fit there.

              While this is true... Selling Single nodes could be a viable idea for a small business that could grow into a second server down the road... I always wondered why they don't sell single nodes to start with...

              @craig-theriac : Has Scale ever considered selling single nodes for small businesses?

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                Alex Sage @dafyre
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                @dafyre said:

                @craig-theriac : Has Scale ever considered selling single nodes for small businesses?

                Two is one, and one is none.

                It would need to be at least 2 nodes.

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                  craig.theriac Vendor @dafyre
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                  @dafyre i cannot confirm nor deny 🙂 @aaronstuder let me know / send me a DM if you want to jump on a call to go through our roadmap. I'd love to learn more about your requirements for a lower end solution.

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                    dafyre @Alex Sage
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                    @aaronstuder said in The Four Things That You Lose with Scale Computing HC3:

                    @dafyre said:

                    @craig-theriac : Has Scale ever considered selling single nodes for small businesses?

                    Two is one, and one is none.

                    It would need to be at least 2 nodes.

                    Ideally, you are correct. But if I only need a single server, why plunk down $25k for two Scale nodes when I can buy a Dell of decent quality and similar specs and install $hypervisor myself? ... Granted an SMB isn't likely to think like that, lol.

                    Don't get me wrong -- I've enjoyed working with the Scale team and their systems! That was just a burning question always in the back of my mind.

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                      Alex Sage @dafyre
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                      @dafyre said:

                      Ideally, you are correct. But if I only need a single server, why plunk down $25k for two Scale nodes when I can buy a Dell of decent quality and similar specs and install $hypervisor myself? ... Granted an SMB isn't likely to think like that, lol.

                      Don't get me wrong -- I've enjoyed working with the Scale team and their systems! That was just a burning question always in the back of my mind.

                      It's in the back of my mind too. Hoping @craig.theriac could tell us why there better 🙂

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                        MattSpeller @dafyre
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                        @dafyre said in The Four Things That You Lose with Scale Computing HC3:

                        @aaronstuder said in The Four Things That You Lose with Scale Computing HC3:

                        @dafyre said:

                        @craig-theriac : Has Scale ever considered selling single nodes for small businesses?

                        Two is one, and one is none.

                        It would need to be at least 2 nodes.

                        Ideally, you are correct. But if I only need a single server, why plunk down $25k for two Scale nodes when I can buy a Dell of decent quality and similar specs and install $hypervisor myself? ... Granted an SMB isn't likely to think like that, lol.

                        Don't get me wrong -- I've enjoyed working with the Scale team and their systems! That was just a burning question always in the back of my mind.

                        That's our current SMB setup - several 1/2U dell servers w/ hyperv. Not sure where / how Scale would help us but honestly that's probably because I've yet to read their specs etc.

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                          Alex Sage @MattSpeller
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                          @MattSpeller Just one server? We do the same, but 2 servers at each site.

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                            MattSpeller @Alex Sage
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                            @aaronstuder said in The Four Things That You Lose with Scale Computing HC3:

                            @MattSpeller Just one server? We do the same, but 2 servers at each site.

                            We're at 5 at primary, 2 at secondary, 1 at a remote

                            Could probably replace the 5 with two current nicely spec'd ones but $$$$$$$$$$$$

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                              Alex Sage @MattSpeller
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                              @MattSpeller You sound like us 🙂

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                                MattSpeller @Alex Sage
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                                @aaronstuder said in The Four Things That You Lose with Scale Computing HC3:

                                @MattSpeller You sound like us 🙂

                                Broke SMB sounds similar the world over heheh

                                #not4profitlife

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                                  1 & 2. Sure.

                                  3 - Well Hyper-v and Xen-server are free.

                                  4 - Is an all your eggs in one basket model. Which can be risky too.

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                                    dafyre @Deleted74295
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                                    @Breffni-Potter said in The Four Things That You Lose with Scale Computing HC3:

                                    1 & 2. Sure.

                                    3 - Well Hyper-v and Xen-server are free.

                                    4 - Is an all your eggs in one basket model. Which can be risky too.

                                    4... Backup, backup, backup!

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                                      Deleted74295 Banned @dafyre
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                                      @dafyre said

                                      4... Backup, backup, backup!

                                      Backups funnily enough don't work for.

                                      • Hardware availability. Can I get a replacement node? If so how quickly.
                                      • If the software part of the hyper-visor all in one magic box breaks and I lose all 3 nodes, what then.
                                      • Scale takes away a lot of the tech from the technician to make it easier which is good but when that tech fails, what can you do.

                                      Now, I like the Scale model but it's still a magic box in the corner.

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                                        dafyre @Deleted74295
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                                        @Breffni-Potter said in The Four Things That You Lose with Scale Computing HC3:

                                        @dafyre said

                                        4... Backup, backup, backup!

                                        Backups funnily enough don't work for.

                                        • Hardware availability. Can I get a replacement node? If so how quickly.
                                        • If the software part of the hyper-visor all in one magic box breaks and I lose all 3 nodes, what then.
                                        • Scale takes away a lot of the tech from the technician to make it easier which is good but when that tech fails, what can you do.

                                        Now, I like the Scale model but it's still a magic box in the corner.

                                        Yeah, that is a perfectly valid point... and I think that is why their starter kits are more than one node, lol.

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                                          Deleted74295 Banned @dafyre
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                                          @dafyre said

                                          Yeah, that is a perfectly valid point... and I think that is why their starter kits are more than one node, lol.

                                          Yes, but even if I buy 500 nodes, the software is the single point of failure.

                                          Look at Microsoft Azure.

                                          They've not had hardware problems, Not lost data centres, their issues have been software based.

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                                            dafyre @Deleted74295
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                                            @Breffni-Potter said in The Four Things That You Lose with Scale Computing HC3:

                                            @dafyre said

                                            Yeah, that is a perfectly valid point... and I think that is why their starter kits are more than one node, lol.

                                            Yes, but even if I buy 500 nodes, the software is the single point of failure.

                                            Look at Microsoft Azure.

                                            They've not had hardware problems, Not lost data centres, their issues have been software based.

                                            But you could still run into that with VMware, or Xen, or Hyper-V, or KVM, or any piece of software. I'm glad to say, I've never seen an issue with the Scale systems take out more than one node (and that was a hardware failure).

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