Linux Junior Needed in Bucharest
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@Jason said in Linux Junior Needed in Bucharest:
I like my views better, right off the national forest. Night time you can find deer, fox, bear and other animals in my yard.
That's why I love Western PA. Deer just walk through our yard (we have too many though), I've seen quite a few foxes, I could do without the groundhogs though.
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@johnhooks said in Linux Junior Needed in Bucharest:
@Jason said in Linux Junior Needed in Bucharest:
I like my views better, right off the national forest. Night time you can find deer, fox, bear and other animals in my yard.
I could do without the groundhogs though.
Wish we had lots around here, I enjoy target practice more with reactive targets and a farmer (and his barn cats) paying and cheering me on
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@MattSpeller said in Linux Junior Needed in Bucharest:
@johnhooks said in Linux Junior Needed in Bucharest:
@Jason said in Linux Junior Needed in Bucharest:
I like my views better, right off the national forest. Night time you can find deer, fox, bear and other animals in my yard.
I could do without the groundhogs though.
Wish we had lots around here, I enjoy target practice more with reactive targets and a farmer (and his barn cats) paying and cheering me on
Well we can't legally shoot them whenever we want, unless it's harming your income (like a farm). However, in the middle of nowhere, we take care of them.
Sucks as a kid riding a three wheeler though and your front wheel going in a giant hole.
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@thwr said in Linux Junior Needed in Bucharest:
@scottalanmiller said in Linux Junior Needed in Bucharest:
And you get views like this...
I know. Our next vacations will probably be in East Europe: Romania, Slovenia, Tzech Republic... somewhere there. Lovely places.
*Czech
FTFY
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@thwr said in Linux Junior Needed in Bucharest:
@scottalanmiller said in Linux Junior Needed in Bucharest:
@Jason said in Linux Junior Needed in Bucharest:
I wouldn't consider this job unless it's $150,000+ but not sure if it would be or not. Why do they not list the pay?
$150K, for a junior, in Romania? Are you kidding? Even Manhattan doesn't pay that for a junior position. Remember you can buy a farm here for $16K.
That's the point. Living costs are peanuts compared to Germany, UK, US etc. And Salary is virtually always proportional to living costs.
@thwr said in Linux Junior Needed in Bucharest:
@scottalanmiller said in Linux Junior Needed in Bucharest:
@Jason said in Linux Junior Needed in Bucharest:
I wouldn't consider this job unless it's $150,000+ but not sure if it would be or not. Why do they not list the pay?
$150K, for a junior, in Romania? Are you kidding? Even Manhattan doesn't pay that for a junior position. Remember you can buy a farm here for $16K.
That's the point. Living costs are peanuts compared to Germany, UK, US etc. And Salary is virtually always proportional to living costs.
And that pay would also mean you couldn't travel as you'd never have enough saved up for the costs in the rest of the world.
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@BBigford said in Linux Junior Needed in Bucharest:
@thwr said in Linux Junior Needed in Bucharest:
@scottalanmiller said in Linux Junior Needed in Bucharest:
And you get views like this...
I know. Our next vacations will probably be in East Europe: Romania, Slovenia, Tzech Republic... somewhere there. Lovely places.
*Czech
FTFY
Sorry, it is "Tschechische Republik" in German. Oddly, my spell checker didn't complain.
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@Dashrender said in Linux Junior Needed in Bucharest:
And that pay would also mean you couldn't travel as you'd never have enough saved up for the costs in the rest of the world.
Actually you could, quite easily, and people do. For one thing, the pay in Romania is 10x (yes, ACTUALLY 10x) higher than several of its neighbours. Romania is the highest income in the region. And cost effective travel in Europe is easy, this isn't the US. Sure, visiting the US is harder, but that's about it. Getting flights and trains from Bucharest are super cheap and go to tonnes of extremely affordable places. Travel only seems expensive because of how Americans do it (mostly due to distance and not being used to travel so not knowing how to do it effectively.)
And remember that Romanians get holidays, REAL holidays. So while you earn less, you work less. Your work days are shorter and you get lots of vacation time. So taking a trip doesn't require that you stop getting paid like it often does in the US.
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@thwr said in Linux Junior Needed in Bucharest:
@BBigford said in Linux Junior Needed in Bucharest:
@thwr said in Linux Junior Needed in Bucharest:
@scottalanmiller said in Linux Junior Needed in Bucharest:
And you get views like this...
I know. Our next vacations will probably be in East Europe: Romania, Slovenia, Tzech Republic... somewhere there. Lovely places.
*Czech
FTFY
Sorry, it is "Tschechische Republik" in German. Oddly, my spell checker didn't complain.
I think that you will find that it is actually...
ΔeskΓ‘ republika
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@scottalanmiller said in Linux Junior Needed in Bucharest:
@Dashrender said in Linux Junior Needed in Bucharest:
And that pay would also mean you couldn't travel as you'd never have enough saved up for the costs in the rest of the world.
Actually you could, quite easily, and people do. For one thing, the pay in Romania is 10x (yes, ACTUALLY 10x) higher than several of its neighbours. Romania is the highest income in the region. And cost effective travel in Europe is easy, this isn't the US. Sure, visiting the US is harder, but that's about it. Getting flights and trains from Bucharest are super cheap and go to tonnes of extremely affordable places. Travel only seems expensive because of how Americans do it (mostly due to distance and not being used to travel so not knowing how to do it effectively.)
And remember that Romanians get holidays, REAL holidays. So while you earn less, you work less. Your work days are shorter and you get lots of vacation time. So taking a trip doesn't require that you stop getting paid like it often does in the US.
Already heard that quite some ppl are working with just 10 days of vacations per year in the US. But they don't even get paid during this time?
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@thwr said in Linux Junior Needed in Bucharest:
@scottalanmiller said in Linux Junior Needed in Bucharest:
@Dashrender said in Linux Junior Needed in Bucharest:
And that pay would also mean you couldn't travel as you'd never have enough saved up for the costs in the rest of the world.
Actually you could, quite easily, and people do. For one thing, the pay in Romania is 10x (yes, ACTUALLY 10x) higher than several of its neighbours. Romania is the highest income in the region. And cost effective travel in Europe is easy, this isn't the US. Sure, visiting the US is harder, but that's about it. Getting flights and trains from Bucharest are super cheap and go to tonnes of extremely affordable places. Travel only seems expensive because of how Americans do it (mostly due to distance and not being used to travel so not knowing how to do it effectively.)
And remember that Romanians get holidays, REAL holidays. So while you earn less, you work less. Your work days are shorter and you get lots of vacation time. So taking a trip doesn't require that you stop getting paid like it often does in the US.
Already heard that quite some ppl are working with just 10 days of vacations per year in the US. But they don't even get paid during this time?
If it is called vacation then they will almost always get paid. But ten days is ten days more than a lot of Americans get. Ten days would be considered "good". Four weeks would be fantastic and normally reserved for very senior people. Highest I've ever heard of is five weeks and only with companies working mostly in Europe. Many Americans get zero vacation.
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@scottalanmiller So I should better not tell anyone about my 30 paid days per year?
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Our max is 6 weeks paid. Plus a floating holiday.
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Vacation what's that? Even on a road trip I worked 90% of the time.
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We get two weeks (10 days)
Of course IT is slightly different, we get two sets of 5 days one in Jan, on in July. Because they don't want anyone in IT taking off 10 days in a row....
We max out at either 3 or 4 weeks I believe. For IT this is still divided in half.
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@scottalanmiller said in Linux Junior Needed in Bucharest:
@thwr said in Linux Junior Needed in Bucharest:
@scottalanmiller said in Linux Junior Needed in Bucharest:
@Dashrender said in Linux Junior Needed in Bucharest:
And that pay would also mean you couldn't travel as you'd never have enough saved up for the costs in the rest of the world.
Actually you could, quite easily, and people do. For one thing, the pay in Romania is 10x (yes, ACTUALLY 10x) higher than several of its neighbours. Romania is the highest income in the region. And cost effective travel in Europe is easy, this isn't the US. Sure, visiting the US is harder, but that's about it. Getting flights and trains from Bucharest are super cheap and go to tonnes of extremely affordable places. Travel only seems expensive because of how Americans do it (mostly due to distance and not being used to travel so not knowing how to do it effectively.)
And remember that Romanians get holidays, REAL holidays. So while you earn less, you work less. Your work days are shorter and you get lots of vacation time. So taking a trip doesn't require that you stop getting paid like it often does in the US.
Already heard that quite some ppl are working with just 10 days of vacations per year in the US. But they don't even get paid during this time?
If it is called vacation then they will almost always get paid. But ten days is ten days more than a lot of Americans get. Ten days would be considered "good". Four weeks would be fantastic and normally reserved for very senior people. Highest I've ever heard of is five weeks and only with companies working mostly in Europe. Many Americans get zero vacation.
When i worked at that ol' tech company I talk about from time to time, after 10 years everyone in the company would have near 6 weeks of paid vacation. Including telephone reps making $9-11/hr.
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@thwr said in Linux Junior Needed in Bucharest:
@scottalanmiller So I should better not tell anyone about my 30 paid days per year?
I've officially had as much as 36 in the US, but don't know anyone else who has ever gotten as much. It took a lot of seniority to get numbers like that.
Unofficially I've had a job tell me to just "stop working" for 2+ months and keep booking hours. That's how we did our huge backpacking tour around Europe in 2012, partially.
