ML
    • Recent
    • Categories
    • Tags
    • Popular
    • Users
    • Groups
    • Register
    • Login

    Backup solutions for Xenserver

    IT Discussion
    14
    60
    14.4k
    Loading More Posts
    • Oldest to Newest
    • Newest to Oldest
    • Most Votes
    Reply
    • Reply as topic
    Log in to reply
    This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403 @jrc
      last edited by

      @jrc The Xen Orchestra website would be the best if you need specifics, but XO is very much a full management tool for Xen/xenServer.

      It has Delta backup capabilities, CR, Full, Disaster Recovery just to name a few features.

      @olivier is the main developer and he could better answer those questions.

      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote -1
      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @jrc
        last edited by

        @jrc said in Backup solutions for Xenserver:

        I thought Xen Orchestra was for managing Xen, not backing it up. I'll need to look into that. Does it do any de-duping? And file level restores?

        XO does, kind of everything 🙂 But no, it is ONLY images. If you want files you'd have to mount an image and pull the file from there. So yes, you can get files, not it is not a file based backup and does not automate that for you.

        It does no dedupe, you would rely on the resulting storage array to handle that.

        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          Have you considered not using a "Xen backup" system? Or using a hybrid (XO for the images, something else for files?) Something like StorageCraft that uses an agent to do the system backups. Some people hate agents, some prefer them. On Xen, we tend to lean towards agent based backups if the tools like XO are not what you want to use.

          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
          • anthonyhA
            anthonyh
            last edited by anthonyh

            I am an Alike user and, although they have their own faults, the software has been doing a decent job backing up my environment. I believe we are pushing their software pretty hard. I have ~100 VMs across 19 hosts. Once we get over the initial deployment and first backup, things are relatively smooth after that. They've made some good progress with their software over the years. There were some rocky times in the Alike 3.x days, and we eventually found a sweet spot with a "special" build of Alike 3.5 which I was running for a good 6 months plus without any fuss (was really nice). When I originally trialed the software back in 2014 they were really good about extending it without question. I believe I trialed the software for a good 3-4 months, and during my trial their support team treated me like I was a paid customer. My only wish is that their support was more reachable via phone (they like to communicate via email/tickets, which I understand)...but that'd drive up the cost of the software. When I've had major issues they've jumped on a conference call with me and done remote sessions. I believe their software does everything that PHDVirtual/Unitrends does, so you shouldn't lose any features.

            I'm currently in the process of transitioning from Alike 3.5 to 4.2, which basically requires you to scrap and re-do your backups. Fortunately for me, I have the hardware to run both in parallel. I'm still working through the initial backups with 4.2, which are running into some snags (not unexpected), but their support has been responsive and helpful. I am hopeful things will iron out in sometime this week.

            FATeknollogeeF 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 3
            • KyleCaminitaK
              KyleCaminita
              last edited by

              you could use xo for your vm backups. and veeam endpoint for your files. I do this essentially in hyper-v. Except I use altaro. I dont think altaro offers Xen support... If they did, it's tits.

              scottalanmillerS 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 3
              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @KyleCaminita
                last edited by

                @KyleCaminita said in Backup solutions for Xenserver:

                you could use xo for your vm backups. and veeam endpoint for your files. I do this essentially in hyper-v. Except I use altaro. I dont think altaro offers Xen support... If they did, it's tits.

                I'm always forgetting that Veeam Endpoint will handle this. At least for the Windows servers. Is their Linux solution out yet?

                A BRRABillB 2 Replies Last reply Reply Quote 1
                • A
                  Alex Sage @scottalanmiller
                  last edited by Alex Sage

                  @scottalanmiller Soon.

                  https://www.veeam.com/blog/announcing-linux-server-backup.html

                  scottalanmillerS 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 2
                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
                    last edited by

                    @aaronstuder http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/148/523/memes-soon.jpg

                    DustinB3403D 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 3
                    • DustinB3403D
                      DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
                      last edited by DustinB3403

                      @scottalanmiller That's creepy as all hell.

                      scottalanmillerS 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                        last edited by

                        @DustinB3403 said in Backup solutions for Xenserver:

                        @scottalanmiller That's creepy as all hell.

                        You should see goats up close dude!! So much creepier than sheep.

                        travisdh1T 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                        • travisdh1T
                          travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          @scottalanmiller said in Backup solutions for Xenserver:

                          @DustinB3403 said in Backup solutions for Xenserver:

                          @scottalanmiller That's creepy as all hell.

                          You should see goats up close dude!! So much creepier than sheep.

                          Go to a livestock auction sale bard the night before with no lights on....... growing up the largest livestock auction in Ohio was in the same town as the high school I went to. Thursdays you didn't want to be anywhere near the place.

                          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller
                            last edited by

                            Sheep only a few feet from my front door here, and when I was in Greece it was all you herd (pun intended) all night.

                            travisdh1T 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 2
                            • BRRABillB
                              BRRABill
                              last edited by

                              Man did this thread fork.

                              backups >>> livestock

                              A 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                              • travisdh1T
                                travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                Nice. When the electric fence failed (often), we'd wake up to fresh milk mooing in the yard.

                                PS - Think we can take this soon by Veem thing to far? 😛

                                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                • BRRABillB
                                  BRRABill @scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  @scottalanmiller said

                                  I'm always forgetting that Veeam Endpoint will handle this. At least for the Windows servers.

                                  Which Veeam product is that, exactly?

                                  BRRABillB scottalanmillerS 2 Replies Last reply Reply Quote 1
                                  • BRRABillB
                                    BRRABill @BRRABill
                                    last edited by

                                    @BRRABill said in Backup solutions for Xenserver:

                                    @scottalanmiller said

                                    I'm always forgetting that Veeam Endpoint will handle this. At least for the Windows servers.

                                    Which Veeam product is that, exactly?

                                    I kind of answered my own question. The "Endpoint Backup" product they have they say is for desktop and latops, but then they say...

                                    "Veeam Endpoint Backup FREE is Veeam's new backup solution for Windows-based computers (desktops & laptops) running Windows 7 and higher as well as Windows Server 2008 and higher."

                                    Is this the product you mean?

                                    scottalanmillerS 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                    • A
                                      Alex Sage @BRRABill
                                      last edited by

                                      @BRRABill said in Backup solutions for Xenserver:

                                      Man did this thread fork.

                                      backups >>> livestock

                                      It's a famous ML derailed.... Just ask @IRJ 😄

                                      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                                        last edited by

                                        @BRRABill said in Backup solutions for Xenserver:

                                        @scottalanmiller said

                                        I'm always forgetting that Veeam Endpoint will handle this. At least for the Windows servers.

                                        Which Veeam product is that, exactly?

                                        Their end point agent based one.

                                        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                                          last edited by

                                          @BRRABill said in Backup solutions for Xenserver:

                                          @BRRABill said in Backup solutions for Xenserver:

                                          @scottalanmiller said

                                          I'm always forgetting that Veeam Endpoint will handle this. At least for the Windows servers.

                                          Which Veeam product is that, exactly?

                                          I kind of answered my own question. The "Endpoint Backup" product they have they say is for desktop and latops, but then they say...

                                          "Veeam Endpoint Backup FREE is Veeam's new backup solution for Windows-based computers (desktops & laptops) running Windows 7 and higher as well as Windows Server 2008 and higher."

                                          Is this the product you mean?

                                          Yes. Linux support is coming soon. So will be pretty broad once that arrives.

                                          BRRABillB 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                          • BRRABillB
                                            BRRABill @scottalanmiller
                                            last edited by

                                            @scottalanmiller

                                            Don't they have another free product just for servers? (Or VMs?)

                                            scottalanmillerS 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                            • 1
                                            • 2
                                            • 3
                                            • 1 / 3
                                            • First post
                                              Last post