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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch @dafyre
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      @dafyre said in Homeschool Resources:

      @Minion-Queen said in Homeschool Resources:

      @tonyshowoff said in Homeschool Resources:

      @JaredBusch What is "new earth"?

      Biblical Creation

      Young Earth, Old Earth... does it really matter? It's not like God's up there with a stop watch, "Ok, time to prepare the Earth for the next phase starting in 48 hours..."

      Or maybe he is , and 48 hours to God is like 48,000,000 hours for us or something, lol.

      I take the stance that Science isn't going to teach us about the Spiritual, and the Spiritual isn't going to teach us about science... However, the two are not mutually exclusive.

      This type of commentary should go into a new thread as it is certain to be something that sets people off and will end up having nothing to do with the thread.

      (Yes, I started it with my screenshot, sorry).

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        tonyshowoff @brianlittlejohn
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        • tonyshowoffT
          tonyshowoff @JaredBusch
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          @JaredBusch said in Homeschool Resources:

          @dafyre said in Homeschool Resources:

          @Minion-Queen said in Homeschool Resources:

          @tonyshowoff said in Homeschool Resources:

          @JaredBusch What is "new earth"?

          Biblical Creation

          Young Earth, Old Earth... does it really matter? It's not like God's up there with a stop watch, "Ok, time to prepare the Earth for the next phase starting in 48 hours..."

          Or maybe he is , and 48 hours to God is like 48,000,000 hours for us or something, lol.

          I take the stance that Science isn't going to teach us about the Spiritual, and the Spiritual isn't going to teach us about science... However, the two are not mutually exclusive.

          This type of commentary should go into a new thread as it is certain to be something that sets people off and will end up having nothing to do with the thread.

          (Yes, I started it with my screenshot, sorry).

          Perhaps it should be split into another thread? Probably a good idea.

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          • tonyshowoffT
            tonyshowoff
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            And now we have a new thread thanks to @scottalanmiller

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            • thanksajdotcomT
              thanksajdotcom @tonyshowoff
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              @tonyshowoff said in What is New Earth:

              And now we have a new thread thanks to @scottalanmiller

              Link?

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              • tonyshowoffT
                tonyshowoff @thanksajdotcom
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                @thanksajdotcom said in What is New Earth:

                @tonyshowoff said in What is New Earth:

                And now we have a new thread thanks to @scottalanmiller

                Link?

                You're already here

                Youtube Video

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                • thanksajdotcomT
                  thanksajdotcom @tonyshowoff
                  last edited by

                  @tonyshowoff said in What is New Earth:

                  @thanksajdotcom said in What is New Earth:

                  @tonyshowoff said in What is New Earth:

                  And now we have a new thread thanks to @scottalanmiller

                  Link?

                  You're already here

                  Youtube Video

                  So the debate was about creation versus evolution or what?

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                  • tonyshowoffT
                    tonyshowoff @thanksajdotcom
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                    @thanksajdotcom said in What is New Earth:

                    @tonyshowoff said in What is New Earth:

                    @thanksajdotcom said in What is New Earth:

                    @tonyshowoff said in What is New Earth:

                    And now we have a new thread thanks to @scottalanmiller

                    Link?

                    You're already here

                    Youtube Video

                    So the debate was about creation versus evolution or what?

                    No debate, I don't think there's much of a point to that, but rather probably just discussion, if people want to argue that's fine I guess, but it was derailing the homeschooling topic is all.

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                    • thanksajdotcomT
                      thanksajdotcom @tonyshowoff
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                      @tonyshowoff said in What is New Earth:

                      @thanksajdotcom said in What is New Earth:

                      @tonyshowoff said in What is New Earth:

                      @thanksajdotcom said in What is New Earth:

                      @tonyshowoff said in What is New Earth:

                      And now we have a new thread thanks to @scottalanmiller

                      Link?

                      You're already here

                      Youtube Video

                      So the debate was about creation versus evolution or what?

                      No debate, I don't think there's much of a point to that, but rather probably just discussion, if people want to argue that's fine I guess, but it was derailing the homeschooling topic is all.

                      Ah ok. Got it.

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                      • dafyreD
                        dafyre @tonyshowoff
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                        @tonyshowoff said in What is New Earth:

                        And now we have a new thread thanks to @scottalanmiller

                        Yes... so we don't flood the other thread with theology and science-speak, lol.

                        I totally take the blame for that one, lol.

                        I won't go as far to say that Science will never be wrong... Look at the early days... the Earth used to be flat, and the sun used to revolve around the Earth.

                        But I also can't wrap my head around a scenario of putting all of the parts for a watch in the washing machine and letting it run for 50 bazillion years that at some point you would have a fully functioning watch...

                        But I do believe that if I jump off the roof of a building I am going to fall.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @thanksajdotcom
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                          @thanksajdotcom said in What is New Earth:

                          @tonyshowoff said in What is New Earth:

                          And now we have a new thread thanks to @scottalanmiller

                          Link?

                          This IS the new thread.

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                          • tonyshowoffT
                            tonyshowoff @brianlittlejohn
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                            @brianlittlejohn said in What is New Earth:

                            @Minion-Queen said in Homeschool Resources:

                            @tonyshowoff said in Homeschool Resources:

                            @JaredBusch What is "new earth"?

                            Biblical Creation

                            Well... not quite... Its specifically Young Earth Biblical Creation. There are alot of people that believe in old earth Biblical Creation.

                            I'd say we sort of fit into the "old earth" creation, as in a similar idea to how in the Hadith, I think narrated by Abu Dharr, it states that if sciences defies our interpretation of the Qur'an, then our interpretation is wrong, i.e. I don't have an issue with the age of the Earth being 4.5 billion years or the like. I must prefer the idea of self-assembling elegance (as today we're working on in the lab as far as nano tubes and so forth) over God-snaps-his-fingers and everything is instantly in this state, including in partially state of decay.

                            (I reposted this because even this one went off topic a bit 😛 )

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @dafyre
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                              @dafyre said in What is New Earth:

                              @tonyshowoff said in What is New Earth:

                              And now we have a new thread thanks to @scottalanmiller

                              Yes... so we don't flood the other thread with theology and science-speak, lol.

                              Was that an intentional Bible pun?

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @brianlittlejohn
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                                @brianlittlejohn said in What is New Earth:

                                @Minion-Queen said in Homeschool Resources:

                                @tonyshowoff said in Homeschool Resources:

                                @JaredBusch What is "new earth"?

                                Biblical Creation

                                Well... not quite... Its specifically Young Earth Biblical Creation. There are alot of people that believe in old earth Biblical Creation.

                                I've only heard Young Earth (meaning that the earth isn't old), but have not heard new earth.

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                                • dafyreD
                                  dafyre @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller said in What is New Earth:

                                  @dafyre said in What is New Earth:

                                  @tonyshowoff said in What is New Earth:

                                  And now we have a new thread thanks to @scottalanmiller

                                  Yes... so we don't flood the other thread with theology and science-speak, lol.

                                  Was that an intentional Bible pun?

                                  Not quite intentional, lol.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
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                                    I would have guessed that New Earth, as opposed to Young Earth, would be the belief that the Earth was just created and the Bible and all of that stuff was part of the created back story. Like the Earth was just created six months ago and we all just remember being alive before then and like the dinosaurs and what have you, the Bible stories and human history were part of the "built in back story".

                                    New isn't an apt replacement for Young.

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                                    • thanksajdotcomT
                                      thanksajdotcom @dafyre
                                      last edited by

                                      @dafyre said in What is New Earth:

                                      @tonyshowoff said in What is New Earth:

                                      And now we have a new thread thanks to @scottalanmiller

                                      Yes... so we don't flood the other thread with theology and science-speak, lol.

                                      I totally take the blame for that one, lol.

                                      I won't go as far to say that Science will never be wrong... Look at the early days... the Earth used to be flat, and the sun used to revolve around the Earth.

                                      But I also can't wrap my head around a scenario of putting all of the parts for a watch in the washing machine and letting it run for 50 bazillion years that at some point you would have a fully functioning watch...

                                      But I do believe that if I jump off the roof of a building I am going to fall.

                                      This is, personally, why I am agnostic. I understand why people choose to be atheist, but to me it doesn't make sense that so much order and function would come from unmitigated chaos. This is honestly one topic (at least as far as understanding evolution and the science behind it), I still need to do my homework on. Do I believe in a global flood like the Noah account? No. Do I believe we are here based on complete chance? No. I believe in a higher power, but do not claim to have the answers to what that higher power is. I don't think that, whatever he/she/it is, that it really has much to do with our daily affairs.

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                                      • dafyreD
                                        dafyre @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said in What is New Earth:

                                        @brianlittlejohn said in What is New Earth:

                                        @Minion-Queen said in Homeschool Resources:

                                        @tonyshowoff said in Homeschool Resources:

                                        @JaredBusch What is "new earth"?

                                        Biblical Creation

                                        Well... not quite... Its specifically Young Earth Biblical Creation. There are alot of people that believe in old earth Biblical Creation.

                                        I've only heard Young Earth (meaning that the earth isn't old), but have not heard new earth.

                                        We all know what they say about assumptions... but I always assumed Young Earth = New Earth? Google of Young Earth vs New Earth doesn't show anything but Young Earth vs Old earth at first glance.

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                                        • thanksajdotcomT
                                          thanksajdotcom @dafyre
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                                          @dafyre said in What is New Earth:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in What is New Earth:

                                          @brianlittlejohn said in What is New Earth:

                                          @Minion-Queen said in Homeschool Resources:

                                          @tonyshowoff said in Homeschool Resources:

                                          @JaredBusch What is "new earth"?

                                          Biblical Creation

                                          Well... not quite... Its specifically Young Earth Biblical Creation. There are alot of people that believe in old earth Biblical Creation.

                                          I've only heard Young Earth (meaning that the earth isn't old), but have not heard new earth.

                                          We all know what they say about assumptions... but I always assumed Young Earth = New Earth? Google of Young Earth vs New Earth doesn't show anything but Young Earth vs Old earth at first glance.

                                          I have no idea what any of these Earth things you're talking about are...are they theories or something? Or are they homeschooling resources?

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                                          • dafyreD
                                            dafyre @thanksajdotcom
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                                            @thanksajdotcom said in What is New Earth:

                                            @dafyre said in What is New Earth:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in What is New Earth:

                                            @brianlittlejohn said in What is New Earth:

                                            @Minion-Queen said in Homeschool Resources:

                                            @tonyshowoff said in Homeschool Resources:

                                            @JaredBusch What is "new earth"?

                                            Biblical Creation

                                            Well... not quite... Its specifically Young Earth Biblical Creation. There are alot of people that believe in old earth Biblical Creation.

                                            I've only heard Young Earth (meaning that the earth isn't old), but have not heard new earth.

                                            We all know what they say about assumptions... but I always assumed Young Earth = New Earth? Google of Young Earth vs New Earth doesn't show anything but Young Earth vs Old earth at first glance.

                                            I have no idea what any of these Earth things you're talking about are...are they theories or something? Or are they homeschooling resources?

                                            These are both scientific theories and topics of theology.

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