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      Dashrender
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      the reverse lookup for that IP is

      NetRange: 198.105.240.0 - 198.105.255.255
      CIDR: 198.105.240.0/20
      OriginAS:
      NetName: SEARCHGUIDE
      NetHandle: NET-198-105-240-0-1
      Parent: NET-198-0-0-0-0
      NetType: Direct Assignment
      RegDate: 2012-07-10
      Updated: 2012-07-10
      Ref: http://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-198-105-240-0-1

      OrgName: Search Guide Inc
      OrgId: SG-63
      Address: 1942 Broadway
      Address: Suite 319
      City: Boulder
      StateProv: CO
      PostalCode: 80302
      Country: US
      RegDate: 2012-06-26
      Updated: 2012-06-26
      Comment: Standard NOC hours are 7am to 6pm EST
      Ref: http://whois.arin.net/rest/org/SG-63

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        WLS-ITGuy
        last edited by

        Corporate is in Wisconsin

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          Dashrender
          last edited by

          makes me wonder if the router at the coffee shop was taken over and is doing bad things...

          Was that IP obtained while at the coffee shop? or did I miss it and it was really someone at their home?

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            dafyre @Dashrender
            last edited by

            @Dashrender said in ZeroTier Question:

            makes me wonder if the router at the coffee shop was taken over and is doing bad things...

            Was that IP obtained while at the coffee shop? or did I miss it and it was really someone at their home?

            Someone at their home.

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              WLS-ITGuy @Dashrender
              last edited by

              @Dashrender said in ZeroTier Question:

              makes me wonder if the router at the coffee shop was taken over and is doing bad things...

              Was that IP obtained while at the coffee shop? or did I miss it and it was really someone at their home?

              This one is at home.

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                JaredBusch
                last edited by

                The user has IPv6 DNS enabled as their first DNS server at home.

                0_1462911919117_upload-2982eb2a-27ab-4425-9869-c34ca4ee38b2

                Turn off IPv6 on their main network conneciton.

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                  Dashrender @WLS-ITGuy
                  last edited by

                  @WLS-ITGuy said in ZeroTier Question:

                  @Dashrender said in ZeroTier Question:

                  makes me wonder if the router at the coffee shop was taken over and is doing bad things...

                  Was that IP obtained while at the coffee shop? or did I miss it and it was really someone at their home?

                  This one is at home.

                  What do they have for DNS servers at home? Their ISP? I've seen many ISPs (Cox does this) if you put in a bad address, you get redirected to a bad website request page hosted by Cox instead of getting an invalid domain name as you might rather have. They are trying to making things more understandable for consumers, sadly it just screws us instead.

                  Have you home user change the DNS provided by their router (if possible) to Google's 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 and try again.

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                    JaredBusch @dafyre
                    last edited by

                    @dafyre said in ZeroTier Question:

                    @WLS-ITGuy said in ZeroTier Question:

                    DUDE! YOU ARE A GENIUS! <---Absoluetely no sarcasm

                    If you are off-site and your DNS server returns the internal IP, stuff still ain't gonna work. 😞

                    This also goes back to what I said. You do NOT want to do this unless you are 100% ready to manually update your on premise DNS server manually to have every ZeroTier IP address listed.

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                      dafyre @Dashrender
                      last edited by

                      @Dashrender said in ZeroTier Question:

                      @WLS-ITGuy said in ZeroTier Question:

                      @Dashrender said in ZeroTier Question:

                      makes me wonder if the router at the coffee shop was taken over and is doing bad things...

                      Was that IP obtained while at the coffee shop? or did I miss it and it was really someone at their home?

                      This one is at home.

                      What do they have for DNS servers at home? Their ISP? I've seen many ISPs (Cox does this) if you put in a bad address, you get redirected to a bad website request page hosted by Cox instead of getting an invalid domain name as you might rather have. They are trying to making things more understandable for consumers, sadly it just screws us instead.

                      Have you home user change the DNS provided by their router (if possible) to Google's 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 and try again.

                      I've got $1 that says I can name the ISP of the home user...

                      (Pro tip: It's mine too).

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                        WLS-ITGuy @dafyre
                        last edited by

                        @dafyre said in ZeroTier Question:

                        @Dashrender said in ZeroTier Question:

                        @WLS-ITGuy said in ZeroTier Question:

                        @Dashrender said in ZeroTier Question:

                        makes me wonder if the router at the coffee shop was taken over and is doing bad things...

                        Was that IP obtained while at the coffee shop? or did I miss it and it was really someone at their home?

                        This one is at home.

                        What do they have for DNS servers at home? Their ISP? I've seen many ISPs (Cox does this) if you put in a bad address, you get redirected to a bad website request page hosted by Cox instead of getting an invalid domain name as you might rather have. They are trying to making things more understandable for consumers, sadly it just screws us instead.

                        Have you home user change the DNS provided by their router (if possible) to Google's 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 and try again.

                        I've got $1 that says I can name the ISP of the home user...

                        (Pro tip: It's mine too).

                        AT&T? Cause that is mine too and I think I got the same address 🙂

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                          JaredBusch @dafyre
                          last edited by

                          @dafyre said in ZeroTier Question:

                          I've got $1 that says I can name the ISP of the home user...

                          (Pro tip: It's mine too).

                          Not a secret. it is listed right in the screenshot.

                          0_1462912306630_upload-3a350526-8c36-4bb2-8f7c-2e854408c0a3

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                            dafyre @WLS-ITGuy
                            last edited by

                            @WLS-ITGuy said in ZeroTier Question:

                            @dafyre said in ZeroTier Question:

                            @Dashrender said in ZeroTier Question:

                            @WLS-ITGuy said in ZeroTier Question:

                            @Dashrender said in ZeroTier Question:

                            makes me wonder if the router at the coffee shop was taken over and is doing bad things...

                            Was that IP obtained while at the coffee shop? or did I miss it and it was really someone at their home?

                            This one is at home.

                            What do they have for DNS servers at home? Their ISP? I've seen many ISPs (Cox does this) if you put in a bad address, you get redirected to a bad website request page hosted by Cox instead of getting an invalid domain name as you might rather have. They are trying to making things more understandable for consumers, sadly it just screws us instead.

                            Have you home user change the DNS provided by their router (if possible) to Google's 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 and try again.

                            I've got $1 that says I can name the ISP of the home user...

                            (Pro tip: It's mine too).

                            AT&T? Cause that is mine too and I think I got the same address 🙂

                            Naw... I bet your home-user's ISP is Charter?

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                              JaredBusch @Dashrender
                              last edited by gjacobse

                              @Dashrender said in ZeroTier Question:

                              @dafyre said in ZeroTier Question:

                              Except in the case of the end-user's machine not actually hitting the internal DNS, maybe?

                              Sure, but if the user isn't hitting an internal DNS, where would that address come from at all? I would expect it to simply fail, or get a *.wls.wels.net reply back, which isn't happening when I ping, so no reason to believe that would be happening to the home user.

                              F[moderated], I said it. It is coming from his primary DNS like it should.

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                                dafyre @JaredBusch
                                last edited by gjacobse

                                @JaredBusch said in ZeroTier Question:

                                @Dashrender said in ZeroTier Question:

                                @dafyre said in ZeroTier Question:

                                Except in the case of the end-user's machine not actually hitting the internal DNS, maybe?

                                Sure, but if the user isn't hitting an internal DNS, where would that address come from at all? I would expect it to simply fail, or get a *.wls.wels.net reply back, which isn't happening when I ping, so no reason to believe that would be happening to the home user.

                                F[moderated], I said it. It is coming from his primary DNS like it should.

                                Most likely it is his ISP hijacking the bad DNS results and will show a search page if he were to use a web browser.

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                                  Dashrender @dafyre
                                  last edited by gjacobse

                                  @dafyre said in ZeroTier Question:

                                  @JaredBusch said in ZeroTier Question:

                                  @Dashrender said in ZeroTier Question:

                                  @dafyre said in ZeroTier Question:

                                  Except in the case of the end-user's machine not actually hitting the internal DNS, maybe?

                                  Sure, but if the user isn't hitting an internal DNS, where would that address come from at all? I would expect it to simply fail, or get a *.wls.wels.net reply back, which isn't happening when I ping, so no reason to believe that would be happening to the home user.

                                  F[moderated], I said it. It is coming from his primary DNS like it should.

                                  Most likely it is his ISP hijacking the bad DNS results and will show a search page if he were to use a web browser.

                                  I concur.

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                                    Dashrender @JaredBusch
                                    last edited by

                                    @JaredBusch said in ZeroTier Question:

                                    @dafyre said in ZeroTier Question:

                                    I've got $1 that says I can name the ISP of the home user...

                                    (Pro tip: It's mine too).

                                    Not a secret. it is listed right in the screenshot.

                                    0_1462912306630_upload-3a350526-8c36-4bb2-8f7c-2e854408c0a3

                                    lol, nice scrolling 🙂

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                                      dafyre
                                      last edited by

                                      Connect him up via ZeroTier, and set your DNS Server's ZT IP on the zt Nic, and you should be good to go.

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                                        JaredBusch @dafyre
                                        last edited by

                                        @dafyre said in ZeroTier Question:

                                        Connect him up via ZeroTier, and set your DNS Server's ZT IP on the zt Nic, and you should be good to go.

                                        Why. You keep saying this and I keep telling you that it is a bad idea.

                                        I have ZeroTier running and it resolves ZeroTier IP addresses with no DNS modifications.

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                                          dafyre @JaredBusch
                                          last edited by

                                          @JaredBusch said in ZeroTier Question:

                                          @dafyre said in ZeroTier Question:

                                          Connect him up via ZeroTier, and set your DNS Server's ZT IP on the zt Nic, and you should be good to go.

                                          Why. You keep saying this and I keep telling you that it is a bad idea.

                                          I have ZeroTier running and it resolves ZeroTier IP addresses with no DNS modifications.

                                          What are you using to do that? Your windows AD DNS?

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                                            JaredBusch @dafyre
                                            last edited by

                                            @dafyre said in ZeroTier Question:

                                            @JaredBusch said in ZeroTier Question:

                                            @dafyre said in ZeroTier Question:

                                            Connect him up via ZeroTier, and set your DNS Server's ZT IP on the zt Nic, and you should be good to go.

                                            Why. You keep saying this and I keep telling you that it is a bad idea.

                                            I have ZeroTier running and it resolves ZeroTier IP addresses with no DNS modifications.

                                            What are you using to do that? Your windows AD DNS?

                                            Nothing. ZeroTier passes NetBIOS. This is really basic.

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