ownCloud 9.0.2 with PHP 7
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@wirestyle22 said in ownCloud 9.0.2 with PHP 7:
Right but by challenging the idea people are forced to change their minds when unable to justify their stance. They now are no longer a source of misinformation themselves.
You are still distracted. The source remains undiscovered and unfixed. You are being blinded by the bandaid applied to the proximate issue. You are trying to fix the results to the company, not to fix the person.
Your way requires someone to watch over that person all the time because you are never addressing the problem. Fix the person and you don't have to watch over them to keep them on the straight and narrow, so to speak.
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Challenging ideas alone makes people tend to learn answers by rote, not understanding why they get the wrong answers in the first place. It's easy and comforting to only go after proximates, but it is not very effectual.
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@scottalanmiller said in ownCloud 9.0.2 with PHP 7:
@wirestyle22 said in ownCloud 9.0.2 with PHP 7:
Right but by challenging the idea people are forced to change their minds when unable to justify their stance. They now are no longer a source of misinformation themselves.
You are still distracted. The source remains undiscovered and unfixed. You are being blinded by the bandaid applied to the proximate issue. You are trying to fix the results to the company, not to fix the person.
Your way requires someone to watch over that person all the time because you are never addressing the problem. Fix the person and you don't have to watch over them to keep them on the straight and narrow, so to speak.
I think most people (this is an assumption because I can't speak for everyone) take what they like from everything they learn. In the same way you took what you liked from the way your parents raised you and augmented it to be the best parent you can be. Jared and I don't agree about kindness in teaching for instance. I'm not challenging who he is as a person though.
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@scottalanmiller said in ownCloud 9.0.2 with PHP 7:
Challenging ideas alone makes people tend to learn answers by rote, not understanding why they get the wrong answers in the first place. It's easy and comforting to only go after proximates, but it is not very effectual.
If you challenge me on something of course I'm going to analyze everything related to it. Anyone interested in bettering themselves (as relative as that is) would do the same.
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Here is Ray Dalio's infamous manifesto. It is possible that no person has ever thought about and researched this topic more than he has.
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You don't have to be against something to be for something in the same way you don't need
@scottalanmiller said in ownCloud 9.0.2 with PHP 7:
Here is Ray Dalio's infamous manifesto. It is possible that no person has ever thought about and researched this topic more than he has.
Appreciated. I'll read this tonight and comment.
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Just tested and teh issue remains.
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@scottalanmiller said in ownCloud 9.0.2 with PHP 7:
Just tested and teh issue remains.
Did you file a bug report?
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@JaredBusch said in ownCloud 9.0.2 with PHP 7:
@scottalanmiller said in ownCloud 9.0.2 with PHP 7:
Just tested and teh issue remains.
Did you file a bug report?
I asked and he said that it was working.
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But I had not thought that it was a bug, only a change in supported versions. But as ownCloud thinks it works, seems like it must be a bug.
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@scottalanmiller said in ownCloud 9.0.2 with PHP 7:
But I had not thought that it was a bug, only a change in supported versions. But as ownCloud thinks it works, seems like it must be a bug.
Stop being obstinate about this and report it next time.
How can you say "ownCloud thinks it works" without thinking that you look like a total ass?
Are you basing this on a single developer commenting on an IT forum simply to get word out that ownCloud has been updated?
What kind of logic is that?
If you had spent any time whatsoever troubleshooting the issue, such as searching the reported issues on git, you would know that in addition to the owncloud-deps-php5, there is an owncloud-deps-php7.
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@JaredBusch said in ownCloud 9.0.2 with PHP 7:
Stop being obstinate about this and report it next time.
If you read my posts, I was NOT obstinate, I went to report it and could not find a place to. The Core is not the packaging, right?
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@JaredBusch said in ownCloud 9.0.2 with PHP 7:
How can you say "ownCloud thinks it works" without thinking that you look like a total ass?
Easily. I asked them point blank if it was fixed, they said that it should work in response to me asking if it was being addressed. How can you say that that makes me look like an ass? How am I the one who looks like an ass? I asked, they answered. It's that simple. First I'm obstinate for "not reporting", now I am ass for repeating what they told me.
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@JaredBusch said in ownCloud 9.0.2 with PHP 7:
If you had spent any time whatsoever troubleshooting the issue, such as searching the reported issues on git, you would know that in addition to the owncloud-deps-php5, there is an owncloud-deps-php7.
In the thread, they could not find that package. One random developer on a forum (same as the one here, except the one here we know is an official, in house developer, we don't know that on GitHub, could be anyone) asked if that package was installed. But the person could not find it. Have you found it yet?
My install is down for the move, so I don't have access to test this right now.
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Did you check the repos before calling me an ass or taking the word of some random person on a forum? I don't think so. You are so insistent that this is my fault and wanting to call me names that you are blindly willing to assume anything. Bottom line.... one official spokesperson for the company responded that the issue should not exist after asked directly if it was fixed. A random person on another forum made a comment about something that doesn't exist and you took their word for it as a reason to badger me.
Here are the full contents of the repo for those interested.
So where is the PHP7 package that you are berating me about? Please provide me the link as I cannot find it.
