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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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      @BRRABill said in HIPPA:

      HIPAA does not, however, protect your employment records – only your health plan and other medical-related records.

      Of course, employment law protects those records.

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      • BRRABillB
        BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said in HIPPA:

        I know that as an employer I had to get training on things that I could never ask for. That was certainly one of them.

        One more question: are you pregnant, taking any prescriptions to help you get pregnant, or of any religions that have feelings about being pregnant?

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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          @BRRABill said in HIPPA:

          @scottalanmiller said in HIPPA:

          I know that as an employer I had to get training on things that I could never ask for. That was certainly one of them.

          One more question: are you pregnant, taking any prescriptions to help you get pregnant, or of any religions that have feelings about being pregnant?

          And how would you describe this person who may or may not be getting your pregnant?

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          • BRRABillB
            BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller said

            And how would you describe this person who may or may not be getting your pregnant?

            We should make a Top Ten list of the most improper questions to ask in an interview.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
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              Are you opposed to taking ruffies while at work?

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              • BRRABillB
                BRRABill
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                @Jason

                You should change your voicemail message to make it sound like a HIPAA law firm. Maybe that'll get the message across.

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                  Jason Banned @BRRABill
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                  @BRRABill said in HIPPA:

                  @Jason

                  You should change your voicemail message to make it sound like a HIPAA law firm. Maybe that'll get the message across.

                  Not likely.. this safety/medical clerk is pretty dense.

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                  • BRRABillB
                    BRRABill @Jason
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                    @Jason said

                    Not likely.. this safety/medical clerk is pretty dense.

                    If it was just her calling you, and perhaps she wanted a date, I'd overlook it.

                    Anything else, yeah, not cool.

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                      Jason Banned @BRRABill
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                      @BRRABill said in HIPPA:

                      @Jason said

                      Not likely.. this safety/medical clerk is pretty dense.

                      If it was just her calling you, and perhaps she wanted a date, I'd overlook it.

                      Anything else, yeah, not cool.

                      Hahaha.. No.

                      and Medical/Safety can not date or have a relationship with employees.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender
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                        Someone got it off the form - did they have HIPAA related reason to see/learn the number originally? If yes, I see a very lawyer intensive problem ahead of anyone/everyone.

                        One could argue that once he learned the information for him it's considered known info, so he can use any time thereafter. As for giving it to others - I could also see the argument the same as before - once he knows it.. and knows it away from HIPAA info, he can do whatever he wants with it.

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender @BRRABill
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                          @BRRABill said in HIPPA:

                          @scottalanmiller

                          Where did you get that snippet from?

                          To my knowledge employers are not covered under the HIPAA rule. In the same way a manufacturer you give medical info to is not.

                          Not applicable here, because a different circumstance, but by definition employers are not covered under the rule to my knowledge.

                          Sure they are, they are just not necessarily Covered Entities with regards to HIPAA.

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @Jason
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                            @Jason said in HIPPA:

                            @BRRABill said in HIPPA:

                            @Jason said

                            So your employer can share your SSN, what medications you are taking, disabilities etc with anyone? That doesn't seem correct.

                            They should never have any of your health information. They cannot get it without your consent, unless you give it to them.

                            Here's the whole page I took that snippet from. (It's short.)

                            http://www.hhs.gov/hipaa/for-individuals/employers-health-information-workplace/index.html

                            Um most employers including mine requires current prescriptions on file, and if you take a drug test you have to list medications you are taking as well.

                            Wow - who the hell are you working for? Invasion of privacy anyone? So - do those same companies ask for your Facebook Logon, email logons, etc?

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                            • BRRABillB
                              BRRABill @Dashrender
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                              @Dashrender said

                              Sure they are, they are just not necessarily Covered Entities with regards to HIPAA.

                              And hence not covered under the HIPAA rule.

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                                Jason Banned @Dashrender
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                                @Dashrender said in HIPPA:

                                @Jason said in HIPPA:

                                @BRRABill said in HIPPA:

                                @Jason said

                                So your employer can share your SSN, what medications you are taking, disabilities etc with anyone? That doesn't seem correct.

                                They should never have any of your health information. They cannot get it without your consent, unless you give it to them.

                                Here's the whole page I took that snippet from. (It's short.)

                                http://www.hhs.gov/hipaa/for-individuals/employers-health-information-workplace/index.html

                                Um most employers including mine requires current prescriptions on file, and if you take a drug test you have to list medications you are taking as well.

                                Wow - who the hell are you working for? Invasion of privacy anyone? So - do those same companies ask for your Facebook Logon, email logons, etc?

                                No, it's for Safety in case you are injuried they need to know what perscription meds you are on, also if they show in your drug test somehow and it's not listed your fired. Doesn't matter.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @Jason
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                                  @Jason said in HIPPA:

                                  @Dashrender said in HIPPA:

                                  @Jason said in HIPPA:

                                  @BRRABill said in HIPPA:

                                  @Jason said

                                  So your employer can share your SSN, what medications you are taking, disabilities etc with anyone? That doesn't seem correct.

                                  They should never have any of your health information. They cannot get it without your consent, unless you give it to them.

                                  Here's the whole page I took that snippet from. (It's short.)

                                  http://www.hhs.gov/hipaa/for-individuals/employers-health-information-workplace/index.html

                                  Um most employers including mine requires current prescriptions on file, and if you take a drug test you have to list medications you are taking as well.

                                  Wow - who the hell are you working for? Invasion of privacy anyone? So - do those same companies ask for your Facebook Logon, email logons, etc?

                                  No, it's for Safety in case you are injuried they need to know what perscription meds you are on, also if they show in your drug test somehow and it's not listed your fired. Doesn't matter.

                                  This makes me sad for the country.

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @BRRABill
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                                    @BRRABill said in HIPPA:

                                    @Dashrender said

                                    Sure they are, they are just not necessarily Covered Entities with regards to HIPAA.

                                    And hence not covered under the HIPAA rule.

                                    I'll have to double check, but I'm pretty sure everyone is covered by HIPAA, but Covered Entities CE have even more restrictions. For example, Business Associates of CEs are definitely covered by HIPAA, made even more so with ARRA than they were under HIPAA direct.

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said in HIPPA:

                                      @Jason said in HIPPA:

                                      @Dashrender said in HIPPA:

                                      @Jason said in HIPPA:

                                      @BRRABill said in HIPPA:

                                      @Jason said

                                      So your employer can share your SSN, what medications you are taking, disabilities etc with anyone? That doesn't seem correct.

                                      They should never have any of your health information. They cannot get it without your consent, unless you give it to them.

                                      Here's the whole page I took that snippet from. (It's short.)

                                      http://www.hhs.gov/hipaa/for-individuals/employers-health-information-workplace/index.html

                                      Um most employers including mine requires current prescriptions on file, and if you take a drug test you have to list medications you are taking as well.

                                      Wow - who the hell are you working for? Invasion of privacy anyone? So - do those same companies ask for your Facebook Logon, email logons, etc?

                                      No, it's for Safety in case you are injuried they need to know what perscription meds you are on, also if they show in your drug test somehow and it's not listed your fired. Doesn't matter.

                                      This makes me sad for the country.

                                      Agreed!

                                      So who are those employers again so I know not to bother applying there?

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                                      • BRRABillB
                                        BRRABill @Dashrender
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                                        @Dashrender said

                                        I'll have to double check, but I'm pretty sure everyone is covered by HIPAA, but Covered Entities CE have even more restrictions. For example, Business Associates of CEs are definitely covered by HIPAA, made even more so with ARRA than they were under HIPAA direct.

                                        Yes, they changed the rule a bit to make Business Associates fall under the rule as well.

                                        Here is a good write up of who is covered.
                                        http://www.hhs.gov/hipaa/for-professionals/covered-entities/index.html

                                        But anyone not on that short list is not. For example, if you give your health info to a company that is making a health care product, they are not covered. Now, in my experience those kinds of companies protect the data even MORE, because it is vital to their business, and not just a requirement of the government.

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender
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                                          OK thanks, the scope is much smaller than I realized.

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                                          • coliverC
                                            coliver @Jason
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                                            @Jason said in HIPPA:

                                            @Dashrender said in HIPPA:

                                            @Jason said in HIPPA:

                                            @BRRABill said in HIPPA:

                                            @Jason said

                                            So your employer can share your SSN, what medications you are taking, disabilities etc with anyone? That doesn't seem correct.

                                            They should never have any of your health information. They cannot get it without your consent, unless you give it to them.

                                            Here's the whole page I took that snippet from. (It's short.)

                                            http://www.hhs.gov/hipaa/for-individuals/employers-health-information-workplace/index.html

                                            Um most employers including mine requires current prescriptions on file, and if you take a drug test you have to list medications you are taking as well.

                                            Wow - who the hell are you working for? Invasion of privacy anyone? So - do those same companies ask for your Facebook Logon, email logons, etc?

                                            No, it's for Safety in case you are injuried they need to know what perscription meds you are on, also if they show in your drug test somehow and it's not listed your fired. Doesn't matter.

                                            This is crazy. I can't fathom this being required from any employer. I've worked in factories and construction zones where the risk of injury is huge. Most people carried a prescription card, what medications they were taking, in their wallet but never would have given, or have been asked to give, that information to the company.

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