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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller of course 2 host minimum. My point was about it being open source /free.

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        Jason Banned @DustinB3403
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        @DustinB3403 said in Citrix paid support:

        his wife about how he has 12 emails in the past 20 minutes

        That's something to talk about? that's way less than my normal amount of email.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @Jason
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          @Jason said in Citrix paid support:

          @DustinB3403 said in Citrix paid support:

          his wife about how he has 12 emails in the past 20 minutes

          That's something to talk about? that's way less than my normal amount of email.

          Seriously, that's not very much!

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            Jason Banned
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            What Citrix product are we talking about? Xenserver? It's been open source for many years now.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @Jason
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              @Jason said in Citrix paid support:

              What Citrix product are we talking about? Xenserver? It's been open source for many years now.

              yeah, that confused me too. XenServer itself has been OS for a while and is built on stuff that was always OS. So the discussion would only make sense about XA or XD, but does not appear to have been as XenMotion would only apply to XS.

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403
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                Yeah the conversation was about how he had to go back to work to continue work on a migration from xenserver (and xenmotion as a tool) to esxi.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                  @DustinB3403 said in Citrix paid support:

                  Yeah the conversation was about how he had to go back to work to continue work on a migration from xenserver (and xenmotion as a tool) to esxi.

                  Even more money probably (just guessing of course) going into his pockets for this "error" with XM that only the IT consultant or operator could have ultimately caused.

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                  • DustinB3403D
                    DustinB3403
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                    Another question, how is it that XA and XD aren't open source. Or are they, and just not commonly used?

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                      @DustinB3403 said in Citrix paid support:

                      Another question, how is it that XA and XD aren't open source. Or are they, and just not commonly used?

                      They are not. How would they be? They have no association or history with XS.

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                      • DustinB3403D
                        DustinB3403
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                        I thought they were associated, they aren't?

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                          @DustinB3403 said in Citrix paid support:

                          I thought they were associated, they aren't?

                          Nope, XA is Citrix MetaFrame from the 1990s. Has nothing to do with virtualization at all.

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                          • DustinB3403D
                            DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller I didn't know that....

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
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                              Ah, are you thinking because of the name? When Citrix acquired the right to the name Xen, when the virtualization frenzy was at its peak, they wanted people to foolishly think that all kinds of things were virtualization that weren't (like cloud today) so they added the name Xen to all kinds of existing products that were totally not related to virtualization or Xen or XenServer in any way.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
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                                it's been so long that I forgot that they did that and that people might still think that the Xen moniker referred to the Xen product when added to other products. XenApp and XenDesktop are just names, nothing more. Like JavaScript, meant to add confusion, but no association with java.

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                                • DustinB3403D
                                  DustinB3403
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                                  I had made an assumption with the name that they were related to XS. I didn't know they weren't, but just adding xen to everything.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                                    @DustinB3403 said in Citrix paid support:

                                    I had made an assumption wig the name that they were related to XS. I didn't know they weren't, but just adding xen to everything.

                                    XenApp is the basis for Windows RDS.

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                                    • DustinB3403D
                                      DustinB3403
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                                      So Xenapp existed before RDS?

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller
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                                        When people say that they run Citrix, it has always meant MetaFrame, not virtualization. Citrix only claim to fame is in making the RDP and ICA protocols for remote Windows desktops. That was always their thing. That's why we were confused when that consultant said that he "ran Citrix." That phrase means XenApp (MetaFrame) in the same incorrect way that running VMware means vSphere. Both are incorrect uses, but everyone accepts that saying the company name of those two companies means their famous "only thing that they are known for" products. Or Novell with Netware.

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                                        • DustinB3403D
                                          DustinB3403
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                                          FYI don't mind my capitalization, using mobile.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                                            @DustinB3403 said in Citrix paid support:

                                            So Xenapp existed before RDS?

                                            Yes. MetaFrame was first, then Microsoft licensed part of it to make Terminal Server (TS.) MetaFrame got rebranded XenApp. TS got rebranded RDS.

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