Mitel to Buy Polycom
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Bout time.
No point in these companies being separated.
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What do you mean?
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@DustinB3403 said in Mitel to Buy Polycom:
Bout time.
No point in these companies being separated.
When competition shrinks, consumers end up being screwed.
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Consumers are screwed as soon as they choose to purchase any product, be it phones or computers or cars or food.
You're paying a premium to buy the product, from where-ever you chose. Competition for Mitel is the Open source community.
The hardware hardly has any way to not work on appliances like FreePBX.
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@marcinozga said in Mitel to Buy Polycom:
@DustinB3403 said in Mitel to Buy Polycom:
Bout time.
No point in these companies being separated.
When competition shrinks, consumers end up being screwed.
There is no competition here.
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@DustinB3403 said in Mitel to Buy Polycom:
Bout time.
No point in these companies being separated.
Lay off the crack pipe?
Polycom makes phones, not phone systems. Mitel makes phone systems and (I believe) rebrands some phones.
Mitel buying Polycom could very well screw over the desk phone market choices. It would be stupid of them to do so, but we have seen worse decisions from buyouts in the past.
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@DustinB3403 said in Mitel to Buy Polycom:
The hardware hardly has any way to not work on appliances like FreePBX.
Cisco.
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I'm not in the mood to argue with you @JaredBusch, you're probably doing it to get a rise out of me.
Mitel makes appliances to run phones, there isn't any competition as you said, they are expanding their offering.
I haven't used many cisco phones in my experience, what limitations do they have that don't allow them to work on FreePBX (or the likes?)
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@DustinB3403 said in Mitel to Buy Polycom:
I'm not in the mood to argue with you @JaredBusch, you're probably doing it to get a rise out of me.
Mitel makes appliances to run phones, there isn't any competition as you said, they are expanding their offering.
They are buying a handset maker, yes. Mitel has never been known for open systems. Not as bad as Cisco, but certainly not open. I do not trust them to leave Polycom alone. I fully expect them to lock something down in the name of profits, and end up screwing the phones up.
I haven't used many cisco phones in my experience, what limitations do they have that don't allow them to work on FreePBX (or the likes?)
If you had experience in the industry you would never ask that. Cisco has long locked their phones by firmware. There are threads and threads of people trying to get the "open" SIP firmware for their Cisco phones.
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@JaredBusch It took a while, but I finally got the open sip firmware for the cisco phones I have.
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@JaredBusch said in Mitel to Buy Polycom:
@marcinozga said in Mitel to Buy Polycom:
@DustinB3403 said in Mitel to Buy Polycom:
Bout time.
No point in these companies being separated.
When competition shrinks, consumers end up being screwed.
There is no competition here.
Both companies make phones.
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@marcinozga said in Mitel to Buy Polycom:
@JaredBusch said in Mitel to Buy Polycom:
@marcinozga said in Mitel to Buy Polycom:
@DustinB3403 said in Mitel to Buy Polycom:
Bout time.
No point in these companies being separated.
When competition shrinks, consumers end up being screwed.
There is no competition here.
Both companies make phones.
I know Mitel sells a Mitel branded phone, but does Mitel actually make them? I was always under the impression that they did not.
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I have no clue either, but they list phones under products.
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@marcinozga said in Mitel to Buy Polycom:
@DustinB3403 said in Mitel to Buy Polycom:
Bout time.
No point in these companies being separated.
When competition shrinks, consumers end up being screwed.
Did they really compete before? And was either relevant in an important way? Both were good companies, but neither made a product that was really innovating or cost effective. So merging, I don't feel, can have any negatives here. The market is over saturated with choices from these kinds of vendors.
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@JaredBusch said in Mitel to Buy Polycom:
@marcinozga said in Mitel to Buy Polycom:
@JaredBusch said in Mitel to Buy Polycom:
@marcinozga said in Mitel to Buy Polycom:
@DustinB3403 said in Mitel to Buy Polycom:
Bout time.
No point in these companies being separated.
When competition shrinks, consumers end up being screwed.
There is no competition here.
Both companies make phones.
I know Mitel sells a Mitel branded phone, but does Mitel actually make them? I was always under the impression that they did not.
I have the same impression.
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@marcinozga said in Mitel to Buy Polycom:
@JaredBusch said in Mitel to Buy Polycom:
@marcinozga said in Mitel to Buy Polycom:
@DustinB3403 said in Mitel to Buy Polycom:
Bout time.
No point in these companies being separated.
When competition shrinks, consumers end up being screwed.
There is no competition here.
Both companies make phones.
One is a handset makes (the actual phones) the other is a PBX maker. They might overlap, but one is "99%" focused on handsets and the other is 99% focused on PBXs. It's like a server and desktop vendor merging... not really much overlap but good synergy.
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The VoIP field is pretty big, consolidation, even if these were overlapping, would not be a horrible thing. Competition is good, but only to a point. At some point competition just reduces potential profits which, in turn, reduces possible investments and R&D. There is a balance that is good.
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Crap begets crap.
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If you had experience in the industry you would never ask that. Cisco has long locked their phones by firmware. There are threads and threads of people trying to get the "open" SIP firmware for their Cisco phones.
Yeah really there is a way to get some of the very old ones working but it's an PITA and you'd be better off spending money on a newer phone from someone else..
We have CUCM clusters and even hate a lot of the way they do thing, but when you need the scalability, load balancing that Cisco clusters offer there very few competitors. CUCM has a bad name from SMBs buying it whihout knowing what features they need and just buying cause it says Cisco..
