Awesome new tool for checking if your building is lit with fiber or not

@dafyre said in Awesome new tool for checking if your building is lit with fiber or not:

@RojoLoco said in Awesome new tool for checking if your building is lit with fiber or not:

Your site fails to identify many fiber circuits in this area, most from carriers that you list. Utter failure.

There's any number of reasons that could be.

yeah, this stuff is actually rather complicated.

Except in this area there is 50 metric shit-tonnes of fiber in the ground, including at least a half dozen AT&T installs in this building. There are AT&T markers all around, but none shown on our building (or other large tech companies on this block).

gregmaron

@RojoLoco just because it exists doesn't mean that all the carriers want to report to the public where it is and whether they can get access to it. The website appears to want to help you find what carriers in your area you could get a quote from. If I were in the market I would be looking up and down my street, not just in my building.

JaredBusch

@RojoLoco said in Awesome new tool for checking if your building is lit with fiber or not:

@scottalanmiller said in Awesome new tool for checking if your building is lit with fiber or not:

@dafyre said in Awesome new tool for checking if your building is lit with fiber or not:

@RojoLoco said in Awesome new tool for checking if your building is lit with fiber or not:

Your site fails to identify many fiber circuits in this area, most from carriers that you list. Utter failure.

There's any number of reasons that could be.

yeah, this stuff is actually rather complicated.

Except in this area there is 50 metric shit-tonnes of fiber in the ground, including at least a half dozen AT&T installs in this building.

And you can publicly prove that how?

JaredBusch

Couple of things here that @RojoLoco needs to be aware of.

He is being a dick
This is a self promotion category.
The developer is participating and making changes on feedback
This is beta/new
See 1.

gregmaron

@scottalanmiller said in Awesome new tool for checking if your building is lit with fiber or not:

Since the info isn't necessarily real, I would make the sign up process optional. Ask for it but make a "skip" button. Working in IT we get bombarded with stuff to harvest our contact info and it's a major turn off. Putting it front and centre that you are hoping to get that info is great, but giving a clear "go ahead and skip" makes it comfortable to use. Giving fake info doesn't feel okay to do for most of us, while we know that we can, we don't like to play that game.

And I think it would be better for you, too. Because it would filter most of that out so that what info you do collect is real rather than ending up with a lot of junk that isn't useful for sales, demographics or whatever.

@Buildinglit yeah it doesn't make sense to require the Company name and Email. If someone sees an enticing carrier near them they would reasonably give you their name and email in the Quote Management page. That would also mean all the contact info you get is actionable because it means someone saw something and is really interested.

JaredBusch

@Buildinglit said in Awesome new tool for checking if your building is lit with fiber or not:

That is actually a good idea. I wanted the email and name on there just so I could identify who and how the tool is being used as I rolled it out.

That is a completely normal reaction for many people that build things to be used. They want to know who is using it.

The problem is that you are fighting a long history of shitty marketing tactics.

dafyre

@JaredBusch said in Awesome new tool for checking if your building is lit with fiber or not:

@Buildinglit said in Awesome new tool for checking if your building is lit with fiber or not:

That is actually a good idea. I wanted the email and name on there just so I could identify who and how the tool is being used as I rolled it out.

That is a completely normal reaction for many people that build things to be used. They want to know who is using it.

The problem is that you are fighting a long history of shitty marketing tactics.

It is possible to slightly increase trust by including a TOS or blurb that promises not to innundate us with spam / cold calls / sell our infor for using your service

JaredBusch

@dafyre said in Awesome new tool for checking if your building is lit with fiber or not:

@JaredBusch said in Awesome new tool for checking if your building is lit with fiber or not:

@Buildinglit said in Awesome new tool for checking if your building is lit with fiber or not:

That is actually a good idea. I wanted the email and name on there just so I could identify who and how the tool is being used as I rolled it out.

That is a completely normal reaction for many people that build things to be used. They want to know who is using it.

The problem is that you are fighting a long history of shitty marketing tactics.

It is possible to slightly increase trust by including a TOS or blurb that promises not to innundate us with spam / cold calls / sell our infor for using your service

I would still never use it unless desperate. Hell I avoid Starwinds? (I think) because they require email to get their free tools.

RojoLoco

@JaredBusch said in Awesome new tool for checking if your building is lit with fiber or not:

@dafyre said in Awesome new tool for checking if your building is lit with fiber or not:

@JaredBusch said in Awesome new tool for checking if your building is lit with fiber or not:

@Buildinglit said in Awesome new tool for checking if your building is lit with fiber or not:

That is actually a good idea. I wanted the email and name on there just so I could identify who and how the tool is being used as I rolled it out.

That is a completely normal reaction for many people that build things to be used. They want to know who is using it.

The problem is that you are fighting a long history of shitty marketing tactics.

It is possible to slightly increase trust by including a TOS or blurb that promises not to innundate us with spam / cold calls / sell our infor for using your service

I would still never use it unless desperate. Hell I avoid Starwinds? (I think) because they require email to get their free tools.

So you would avoid it, but I'm not allowed to dislike it's data mining and inaccuracy? Nice.

JaredBusch

@RojoLoco said in Awesome new tool for checking if your building is lit with fiber or not:

@JaredBusch said in Awesome new tool for checking if your building is lit with fiber or not:

@dafyre said in Awesome new tool for checking if your building is lit with fiber or not:

@JaredBusch said in Awesome new tool for checking if your building is lit with fiber or not:

@Buildinglit said in Awesome new tool for checking if your building is lit with fiber or not:

That is actually a good idea. I wanted the email and name on there just so I could identify who and how the tool is being used as I rolled it out.

That is a completely normal reaction for many people that build things to be used. They want to know who is using it.

The problem is that you are fighting a long history of shitty marketing tactics.

It is possible to slightly increase trust by including a TOS or blurb that promises not to innundate us with spam / cold calls / sell our infor for using your service

I would still never use it unless desperate. Hell I avoid Starwinds? (I think) because they require email to get their free tools.

So you would avoid it, but I'm not allowed to dislike it's data mining and inaccuracy? Nice.

You are completely allowed to dislike it. In fact, I myself stated at the top of this thread, that it should not be there. The difference is that you were more than simply not nice about it.

RojoLoco

@JaredBusch said in Awesome new tool for checking if your building is lit with fiber or not:

@RojoLoco said in Awesome new tool for checking if your building is lit with fiber or not:

@JaredBusch said in Awesome new tool for checking if your building is lit with fiber or not:

@dafyre said in Awesome new tool for checking if your building is lit with fiber or not:

@JaredBusch said in Awesome new tool for checking if your building is lit with fiber or not:

@Buildinglit said in Awesome new tool for checking if your building is lit with fiber or not:

That is actually a good idea. I wanted the email and name on there just so I could identify who and how the tool is being used as I rolled it out.

That is a completely normal reaction for many people that build things to be used. They want to know who is using it.

The problem is that you are fighting a long history of shitty marketing tactics.

It is possible to slightly increase trust by including a TOS or blurb that promises not to innundate us with spam / cold calls / sell our infor for using your service

I would still never use it unless desperate. Hell I avoid Starwinds? (I think) because they require email to get their free tools.

So you would avoid it, but I'm not allowed to dislike it's data mining and inaccuracy? Nice.

You are completely allowed to dislike it. In fact, I myself stated at the top of this thread, that it should not be there. The difference is that you were more than simply not nice about it.

I truly couldn't give less of a shit about whether you think I'm "nice" or not. Calls 'em like I sees 'em.

dafyre

@JaredBusch said in Awesome new tool for checking if your building is lit with fiber or not:

@dafyre said in Awesome new tool for checking if your building is lit with fiber or not:

@JaredBusch said in Awesome new tool for checking if your building is lit with fiber or not:

@Buildinglit said in Awesome new tool for checking if your building is lit with fiber or not:

That is actually a good idea. I wanted the email and name on there just so I could identify who and how the tool is being used as I rolled it out.

That is a completely normal reaction for many people that build things to be used. They want to know who is using it.

The problem is that you are fighting a long history of shitty marketing tactics.

It is possible to slightly increase trust by including a TOS or blurb that promises not to innundate us with spam / cold calls / sell our infor for using your service

I would still never use it unless desperate. Hell I avoid Starwinds? (I think) because they require email to get their free tools.

Solar Winds too, lol.

In defense of both of them, I'm only emailed about free tools from Solar Windows about once a week. I've never had a call from either of them that I didn't actually request.

I like the fact that @Buildinglit does not ask for a phone number to test his service out.. Those are easy enough to get anyway.

Minion Queen

@RojoLoco said in Awesome new tool for checking if your building is lit with fiber or not:

@JaredBusch said in Awesome new tool for checking if your building is lit with fiber or not:

@RojoLoco said in Awesome new tool for checking if your building is lit with fiber or not:

@JaredBusch said in Awesome new tool for checking if your building is lit with fiber or not:

@dafyre said in Awesome new tool for checking if your building is lit with fiber or not:

@JaredBusch said in Awesome new tool for checking if your building is lit with fiber or not:

@Buildinglit said in Awesome new tool for checking if your building is lit with fiber or not:

That is actually a good idea. I wanted the email and name on there just so I could identify who and how the tool is being used as I rolled it out.

That is a completely normal reaction for many people that build things to be used. They want to know who is using it.

The problem is that you are fighting a long history of shitty marketing tactics.

It is possible to slightly increase trust by including a TOS or blurb that promises not to innundate us with spam / cold calls / sell our infor for using your service

I would still never use it unless desperate. Hell I avoid Starwinds? (I think) because they require email to get their free tools.

So you would avoid it, but I'm not allowed to dislike it's data mining and inaccuracy? Nice.

You are completely allowed to dislike it. In fact, I myself stated at the top of this thread, that it should not be there. The difference is that you were more than simply not nice about it.

I truly couldn't give less of a shit about whether you think I'm "nice" or not. Calls 'em like I sees 'em.

Ok..... be nice. I understand not liking something. State your reason and avoid posting again if you don't like it. Please don't keep pushing buttons.......;

Buildinglit

Ok guys.. the required fields were removed in general. Just use the tool how you would like to use it. It helps us though to keep track of things by filling in that information. Ultimately I would like to put in a place where if you build your quotes here you can become a referral partner and add your information and get paid for checking addresses and building quotes in the back end. The contract / quote management is pretty sweet.

As for Rojoloco it isn't a big deal I don't mind him being blunt, but he is wrong when he thinks im just some sales puke ahole. I built this so you guys could get away from having to deal with those guys.