Windows Desktop PC's: preferred suppliers?
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@Minion-Queen said:
If we or a customer are looking for desktops we send them to Softmart (yes them again). They are awesome and will do a lot of the hunting for us if we are looking for something but not sure exactly what we/client needs.
I have a preferred VAR that I have always gone through. I just opened accounts at Softmart though for my clients that actively buy hardware because aforementioned VAR has not been very "Value Added" recently.
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Dell, i5, 8gb, small ssd = happy users
I avoid the small form factor cases because they don't have good airflow.
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We don't buy direct from Dell, it's not cheaper and actually Dell has been declining our large ours anyway they say they don't really want to do enterprise sales direct anymore.
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For desktops I have a VAR but I also do Dell Direct, depending on whomever can get the best deal. Sometimes I get some good cashback.
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@MattSpeller said:
Dell, i5, 8gb, small ssd = happy users
I avoid the small form factor cases because they don't have good airflow.
Average price is $??
What size SSD? -
@MattSpeller said:
Dell, i5, 8gb, small ssd = happy users
I avoid the small form factor cases because they don't have good airflow.
Small SSD? You can get after market 512gb for around $100
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@MattSpeller said:
Dell, i5, 8gb, small ssd = happy users
I avoid the small form factor cases because they don't have good airflow.
You avoid the small form factor? That's all I buy. I also have two of those mini boxes, about the size of a piece of Texas Toast. None of them have had any over heating problems.
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@Jason said:
@MattSpeller said:
Dell, i5, 8gb, small ssd = happy users
I avoid the small form factor cases because they don't have good airflow.
Small SSD? You can get after market 512gb for around $100
Why spend $100 when $60 will do for a 120 or even 256? By company policy, no one is suppose to have any data on the local machine. My new Windows 10 images take around 25 GB, anything more than that is just a waste of space and money.
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@FATeknollogee said:
@MattSpeller said:
Dell, i5, 8gb, small ssd = happy users
I avoid the small form factor cases because they don't have good airflow.
Average price is $??
What size SSD?Our recent purchase with Dell (using coupons) is $450 for Optiplex 3020 i5-4590 + After market Samsung 850 Evo 250GB ($50) + additional 8GB memory stick (12GB total) ($30). I did a lot of shopping research and Newegg just happen to have samsung 850 on their daily eggshocker thing. Don't expect to get this price at this moment. Might be around $650
@Dashrender said:
@Jason said:
@MattSpeller said:
Dell, i5, 8gb, small ssd = happy users
I avoid the small form factor cases because they don't have good airflow.
Small SSD? You can get after market 512gb for around $100
Why spend $100 when $60 will do for a 120 or even 256? By company policy, no one is suppose to have any data on the local machine. My new Windows 10 images take around 25 GB, anything more than that is just a waste of space and money.
True that no one should have anything on their local, but some LOVE to put stuff on their Desktop. I overcome this with VeeAM backup on to their secondary hard drive. We don't have folder relocation policy yet.
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@Dashrender said:
@Jason said:
@MattSpeller said:
Dell, i5, 8gb, small ssd = happy users
I avoid the small form factor cases because they don't have good airflow.
Small SSD? You can get after market 512gb for around $100
Why spend $100 when $60 will do for a 120 or even 256? By company policy, no one is suppose to have any data on the local machine. My new Windows 10 images take around 25 GB, anything more than that is just a waste of space and money.
No data at all on local computers? What about your outlook profile? That's always local and can easily be 50GB+..
120GB will not do. Not for us. Maybe if all you install is windows and office that's fine.
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About size of SSD. There's no real answer as to how much is too much or too little. I supposed the more the better consider the price is not much different between 128 and 256GB. 512GB is ideal if it is on sale or discounted.
@Jason said:
No data at all on local computers? What about your outlook profile? That's always local and can easily be 50GB+..
120GB will not do. Not for us. Maybe if all you install is windows and office that's fine.
I can approve of this statement. One of our senior manager's entire outlook data (archived) is about 40GB in size. We use hosted exchange so we cannot simply achieved it anyway else.
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@LAH3385 said:
I can approve of this statement. One of our senior manager's entire outlook data (archived) is about 40GB in size. We use hosted exchange so we cannot simply achieved it anyway else.
You can still archive with an archive with hosted exchange. We do
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CAD often time stores cache on the local drive as well so you need a pretty big drive for the 3d modeling.
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@Jason said:
@LAH3385 said:
I can approve of this statement. One of our senior manager's entire outlook data (archived) is about 40GB in size. We use hosted exchange so we cannot simply achieved it anyway else.
You can still archive with an archive with hosted exchange.
We have compliance archive for all emails in and out bound. What user decide to archive from their Outlook is their choice.
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@Jason said:
@Dashrender said:
@Jason said:
@MattSpeller said:
Dell, i5, 8gb, small ssd = happy users
I avoid the small form factor cases because they don't have good airflow.
Small SSD? You can get after market 512gb for around $100
Why spend $100 when $60 will do for a 120 or even 256? By company policy, no one is suppose to have any data on the local machine. My new Windows 10 images take around 25 GB, anything more than that is just a waste of space and money.
No data at all on local computers? What about your outlook profile? That's always local and can easily be 50GB+..
120GB will not do. Not for us. Maybe if all you install is windows and office that's fine.
We can't used cached Outlook profiles - it causes timing/sync problems.
Additionally, my standard user is limited to 200 MB of Outlook space. I have approximately 10 users who are allowed more space, but it's no where near 50 GB, but still they don't have cache's for Outlook either.
Nearly every user here has full read/write access to our physician's calendars. When using cached mode, the calendar entries are only updated once they are downloaded into the cache, even when Outlook is online. When staff went to the calendar to schedule things, often times the doc's calendar wouldn't be synced to the local machine, so the calendar would appear empty or incomplete/inaccurate. Double bookings, confused appointments, etc ensued. This caused us nightmares for around 2 weeks when we first deployed Exchange/Outlook. Disabling cached mode makes everyone run live directly off Exchange.
This is the reason that we can only go to O365 if either a) everyone only uses OWA or b) we move calendaring to a third party solution.
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@Jason said:
@Dashrender said:
@Jason said:
@MattSpeller said:
Dell, i5, 8gb, small ssd = happy users
I avoid the small form factor cases because they don't have good airflow.
Small SSD? You can get after market 512gb for around $100
Why spend $100 when $60 will do for a 120 or even 256? By company policy, no one is suppose to have any data on the local machine. My new Windows 10 images take around 25 GB, anything more than that is just a waste of space and money.
No data at all on local computers? What about your outlook profile? That's always local and can easily be 50GB+..
120GB will not do. Not for us. Maybe if all you install is windows and office that's fine.
Oh, and as I mentioned, my current Windows 10 image is 25 GB, even a 50 GB cache would still easily fit inside a 120 GB SSD.
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@Jason said:
CAD often time stores cache on the local drive as well so you need a pretty big drive for the 3d modeling.
Absolutely - the amount of local storage is completely dependent upon your situation - I wasn't implying that my lack of local space was the same for everyone.
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@LAH3385 said:
@Jason said:
@LAH3385 said:
I can approve of this statement. One of our senior manager's entire outlook data (archived) is about 40GB in size. We use hosted exchange so we cannot simply achieved it anyway else.
You can still archive with an archive with hosted exchange.
We have compliance archive for all emails in and out bound. What user decide to archive from their Outlook is their choice.
Personally I rather like companies that mandate that all email over xzy date must be deleted, the whole idea of keeping email for darn near ever just seems weird to me. But I know I'm in a small subset that believes this.
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@Dashrender said:
@LAH3385 said:
@Jason said:
@LAH3385 said:
I can approve of this statement. One of our senior manager's entire outlook data (archived) is about 40GB in size. We use hosted exchange so we cannot simply achieved it anyway else.
You can still archive with an archive with hosted exchange.
We have compliance archive for all emails in and out bound. What user decide to archive from their Outlook is their choice.
Personally I rather like companies that mandate that all email over xzy date must be deleted, the whole idea of keeping email for darn near ever just seems weird to me. But I know I'm in a small subset that believes this.
Also keeping an email forever sets a precedent that could be used to force you in a court of law to produce email records.
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@DustinB3403 said:
@Dashrender said:
@LAH3385 said:
@Jason said:
@LAH3385 said:
I can approve of this statement. One of our senior manager's entire outlook data (archived) is about 40GB in size. We use hosted exchange so we cannot simply achieved it anyway else.
You can still archive with an archive with hosted exchange.
We have compliance archive for all emails in and out bound. What user decide to archive from their Outlook is their choice.
Personally I rather like companies that mandate that all email over xzy date must be deleted, the whole idea of keeping email for darn near ever just seems weird to me. But I know I'm in a small subset that believes this.
Also keeping an email forever sets a precedent that could be used to force you in a court of law to produce email records.
Well, in LAH's case, he must have that as he mentioned compliance archiving - but those who are not compliance archiving.. I agree.
