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    Before Reinstall ... Windows Desktop Backup

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    • RojoLocoR
      RojoLoco @dafyre
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      @dafyre said:

      I've had good luck doing it with Veeam Endpoint Recovery Free. it works great.

      When I tested that, I could never get a disk image to restore correctly. Macrium Reflect Free edition was the fastest and most reliable in my tests, both for backup and restoration, whole disk imaging.

      But let's face it, if the software can't successfully restore the image, it's not worth a shit.

      (I have also used Acronis, DriveImage XML, and Clonezilla in the past, all great success!)

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
        last edited by

        Just using dd works, too.

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        • BRRABillB
          BRRABill @scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          @scottalanmiller said:

          Just using dd works, too.

          dd?

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          • BRRABillB
            BRRABill @RojoLoco
            last edited by

            @RojoLoco said:

            But let's face it, if the software can't successfully restore the image, it's not worth a shit.

            Considering that I couldn't even get the BACKUP/IMAGE to take, I never even got a chance for it to fail there.

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            • A
              Alex Sage @BRRABill
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              @BRRABill said:

              dd?

              This: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dd_(Unix)

              or maybe this: https://www.dunkindonuts.com/dunkindonuts/en.html

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                last edited by

                @BRRABill said:

                @scottalanmiller said:

                Just using dd works, too.

                dd?

                The standard under the hood imaging tool. It's a native UNIX command but available for every platform. It's just a directly block pipe. Does nothing fancy and always works.

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                • BRRABillB
                  BRRABill @Alex Sage
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                  @aaronstuder said:

                  or maybe this: https://www.dunkindonuts.com/dunkindonuts/en.html

                  That's what I figured. I actually just got back from there with a coffee. Thanks @scottalanmiller !

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                    last edited by

                    @BRRABill said:

                    @aaronstuder said:

                    or maybe this: https://www.dunkindonuts.com/dunkindonuts/en.html

                    That's what I figured. I actually just got back from there with a coffee. Thanks @scottalanmiller !

                    I'm so sorry.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender
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                      I've been using Clonezilla for over 10 years. it's my go to for this type of thing.

                      If you had performance issues using it, I'd look at your interfaces to see if there was a problem there.

                      Normally I push my images to a SMB share, it's also where I restore images from. a 20 GB image takes under 10 mins to restore, probably closer to 5 min on a 1 Gb network.

                      If you were backing up to a USB 2.0 attached (or god forbid a 1.1) that would be why it was so slow.

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                      • MattSpellerM
                        MattSpeller
                        last edited by MattSpeller

                        Microsoft P2V converter called Disk2VHD. Rips it super quick, does it while logged in to windows, dumps it into a (kind of) convenient format (VHD, mountable in disk management)

                        100% free, does not need to be installed, application is under 1mb, requires no prep

                        https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/ee656415.aspx

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender @MattSpeller
                          last edited by

                          @MattSpeller said:

                          Microsoft P2V converter called Disk2VHD. Rips it super quick, does it while logged in to windows, dumps it into a (kind of) convenient format (VHD, mountable in disk management)

                          100% free, does not need to be installed, application is under 1mb

                          https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/ee656415.aspx

                          Can you restore that to bare metal?

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                          • MattSpellerM
                            MattSpeller @Dashrender
                            last edited by MattSpeller

                            @Dashrender said:

                            @MattSpeller said:

                            Microsoft P2V converter called Disk2VHD. Rips it super quick, does it while logged in to windows, dumps it into a (kind of) convenient format (VHD, mountable in disk management)

                            100% free, does not need to be installed, application is under 1mb

                            https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/ee656415.aspx

                            Can you restore that to bare metal?

                            I've never wanted to, I have no idea. Probably? It'd be messy.

                            Edit: why not just fire it up as a vm? 😛

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                            • BRRABillB
                              BRRABill @Dashrender
                              last edited by

                              @Dashrender said:

                              If you were backing up to a USB 2.0 attached (or god forbid a 1.1) that would be why it was so slow.

                              It was USB 2.0, but so much slower than other products.

                              Plus now that I have heard other are having restore issues ... maybe I'll just stick to other stuff.

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                              • BRRABillB
                                BRRABill @MattSpeller
                                last edited by

                                @MattSpeller said:

                                Microsoft P2V converter called Disk2VHD. Rips it super quick, does it while logged in to windows, dumps it into a (kind of) convenient format (VHD, mountable in disk management)

                                100% free, does not need to be installed, application is under 1mb, requires no prep

                                https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/ee656415.aspx

                                That's a great idea.

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                                • BRRABillB
                                  BRRABill @MattSpeller
                                  last edited by

                                  @MattSpeller said:

                                  I've never wanted to, I have no idea. Probably? It'd be messy.

                                  Edit: why not just fire it up as a vm? 😛

                                  I guess the fear would be ... what if you needed to put the system back exactly as you found it?

                                  Unlikely since you are trying to wipe and restore. But something to consider.

                                  Considering you have the data, though, I'm not sure that is such a big issue.

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                                  • BRRABillB
                                    BRRABill
                                    last edited by

                                    Hmmm, this old issue again, from the DISK2VHD page.

                                    I mean really, come on.

                                    Is it legal to just MAKE a VHD, I wonder?

                                    Note: Physical-to-virtual hard drive migration of a Windows installation is a valid function for customers with Software Assurance and full retail copies of Windows XP, Windows Vista, and Windows 7. Software Assurance provides users valuable benefits—please contact Microsoft Corporation for further information. Windows XP, Windows Vista and Windows 7 installed by Original Equipment Manufacturers (OEM) using OEM versions of these products may not be transferred to a virtual hard drive in accordance with Microsoft licensing terms.

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @BRRABill
                                      last edited by

                                      @BRRABill said:

                                      @Dashrender said:

                                      If you were backing up to a USB 2.0 attached (or god forbid a 1.1) that would be why it was so slow.

                                      It was USB 2.0, but so much slower than other products.

                                      Plus now that I have heard other are having restore issues ... maybe I'll just stick to other stuff.

                                      who is havin a problem with what? Clonezilla? I've never had a problem I didn't cause.

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                                      • JaredBuschJ
                                        JaredBusch @Dashrender
                                        last edited by

                                        @Dashrender said:

                                        @BRRABill said:

                                        @Dashrender said:

                                        If you were backing up to a USB 2.0 attached (or god forbid a 1.1) that would be why it was so slow.

                                        It was USB 2.0, but so much slower than other products.

                                        Plus now that I have heard other are having restore issues ... maybe I'll just stick to other stuff.

                                        who is havin a problem with what? Clonezilla? I've never had a problem I didn't cause.

                                        No one. The stated issue was with Veeam.

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                                        • JaredBuschJ
                                          JaredBusch
                                          last edited by

                                          I use Veeam Endpoint Backup and it works great. I have never had a problem restoring individual files or encore systems. I did a bare metal restore last week, remotely in fact.

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                                          • iroalI
                                            iroal @Dashrender
                                            last edited by

                                            @Dashrender said:

                                            @MattSpeller said:

                                            Microsoft P2V converter called Disk2VHD. Rips it super quick, does it while logged in to windows, dumps it into a (kind of) convenient format (VHD, mountable in disk management)

                                            100% free, does not need to be installed, application is under 1mb

                                            https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/ee656415.aspx

                                            Can you restore that to bare metal?

                                            Yes, you can do it.

                                            There will be problems with the drivers, but nothing that you can resolve.

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