Installing Axigen X Email on CentOS 7
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@axigen said:
By the way, did anybody notice the Gravatar integration in our WebMail? If you are receiving an email from an email address that is registered with Gravatar, you will see in the message pane the thumbnail of the sender.
I did notice that, yes
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@scottalanmiller said:
@axigen said:
By the way, did anybody notice the Gravatar integration in our WebMail? If you are receiving an email from an email address that is registered with Gravatar, you will see in the message pane the thumbnail of the sender.
I did notice that, yes
That's interesting - but how many people actually want that?
When my boss saw that you could integrate Facebook into Outlook, she was none to happy. I see all of this social integration as a West Coast thing, but the rest of the country doesn't really want/care about it from a business point of view.
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@Dashrender said:
That's interesting - but how many people actually want that?
I do. It's just a single picture, not really that big of a deal....
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@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@axigen said:
By the way, did anybody notice the Gravatar integration in our WebMail? If you are receiving an email from an email address that is registered with Gravatar, you will see in the message pane the thumbnail of the sender.
I did notice that, yes
That's interesting - but how many people actually want that?
When my boss saw that you could integrate Facebook into Outlook, she was none to happy. I see all of this social integration as a West Coast thing, but the rest of the country doesn't really want/care about it from a business point of view.
I think it is a global thing and a gap in business thinking for some old school businesses in less progressive markets. Business is social and most of the world knows that. Facebook is very different than Gravatar. Do I want FB in my email, no, but Gravatar, yes. It's a universal email-based visual identity system. It helps make you more efficient and personalises a system that is often seen as impersonal. The same reason that avatars are critical in an online forum, they matter in email the same way. They make recognition and connection faster and stronger.
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@Dashrender said:
When my boss saw that you could integrate Facebook into Outlook, she was none to happy.
She was unhappy that you COULD integrate it? That's an odd reaction. That sounds like someone who is mad at Facebook and upset that other people enjoy it. Like hating it when you see kids having fun at the park. No one is making you use the park or have kids, but some people are just unhappy that other people are happy with things or like different things than them.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@axigen said:
By the way, did anybody notice the Gravatar integration in our WebMail? If you are receiving an email from an email address that is registered with Gravatar, you will see in the message pane the thumbnail of the sender.
I did notice that, yes
That's interesting - but how many people actually want that?
When my boss saw that you could integrate Facebook into Outlook, she was none to happy. I see all of this social integration as a West Coast thing, but the rest of the country doesn't really want/care about it from a business point of view.
I think it is a global thing and a gap in business thinking for some old school businesses in less progressive markets. Business is social and most of the world knows that. Facebook is very different than Gravatar. Do I want FB in my email, no, but Gravatar, yes. It's a universal email-based visual identity system. It helps make you more efficient and personalises a system that is often seen as impersonal. The same reason that avatars are critical in an online forum, they matter in email the same way. They make recognition and connection faster and stronger.
I agree that icons are important in making fast recognition, heck there was a mixup here on ML a week or so ago because of the generic Gravatar icon that two or more people were using in a thread.
Which leads me to the - so many people don't leave their avatars the same. Sure many ML'ers do - You, Scott does, I do and several others - but just look at Facebook, people are constantly changing their avatars, making them that much less reliable. Also, it makes stealing someone's identity pretty easy, at least for a very short amount of time.Going back to that thread I mentioned... If I borrowed your avatar, I could have posted things and the reader would have assumed it was you posting them because they didn't read the name, instead they only looked at the picture.
So sure, it's not perfect, but I do see that there is some, albeit limited, value.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
When my boss saw that you could integrate Facebook into Outlook, she was none to happy.
She was unhappy that you COULD integrate it? That's an odd reaction. That sounds like someone who is mad at Facebook and upset that other people enjoy it. Like hating it when you see kids having fun at the park. No one is making you use the park or have kids, but some people are just unhappy that other people are happy with things or like different things than them.
Well my boss hates facebook because her employees waste time on FB instead of doing their job.
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@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
When my boss saw that you could integrate Facebook into Outlook, she was none to happy.
She was unhappy that you COULD integrate it? That's an odd reaction. That sounds like someone who is mad at Facebook and upset that other people enjoy it. Like hating it when you see kids having fun at the park. No one is making you use the park or have kids, but some people are just unhappy that other people are happy with things or like different things than them.
Well my boss hates facebook because her employees waste time on FB instead of doing their job.
You boss has control issues.
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@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
When my boss saw that you could integrate Facebook into Outlook, she was none to happy.
She was unhappy that you COULD integrate it? That's an odd reaction. That sounds like someone who is mad at Facebook and upset that other people enjoy it. Like hating it when you see kids having fun at the park. No one is making you use the park or have kids, but some people are just unhappy that other people are happy with things or like different things than them.
Well my boss hates facebook because her employees waste time on FB instead of doing their job.
It's a pretty big issue that she has no issue with the employees or the lack of work, but chooses to hate FB who is innocent in the situation. I feel like she just uses work as a means to vent her prejudices - she is not reacting like a person genuinely upset by the lack of work being done.
Do you feel that she would equally hate food if they were wasting their time eating?
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@Dashrender said:
Well my boss hates facebook because her employees waste time on FB instead of doing their job.
Is your boss the director of HR for the company? If he feels so strongly, why isn't it block via your firewall?
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I hate it when IT gets forced to handle HR issues.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
When my boss saw that you could integrate Facebook into Outlook, she was none to happy.
She was unhappy that you COULD integrate it? That's an odd reaction. That sounds like someone who is mad at Facebook and upset that other people enjoy it. Like hating it when you see kids having fun at the park. No one is making you use the park or have kids, but some people are just unhappy that other people are happy with things or like different things than them.
Well my boss hates facebook because her employees waste time on FB instead of doing their job.
It's a pretty big issue that she has no issue with the employees or the lack of work, but chooses to hate FB who is innocent in the situation. I feel like she just uses work as a means to vent her prejudices - she is not reacting like a person genuinely upset by the lack of work being done.
Do you feel that she would equally hate food if they were wasting their time eating?
I don't have to provide a feeling, I know she does.. because the staff does that too. They have food days all the time where they all bring in food then snack on it all day, away from their desks.
I'm sure she actually could care less about Facebook itself. What she hates is that people aren't doing their work. She believe that if Facebook didn't exist that the employees would have little else to do and would therefore do their work. Of course this is the fallacy.
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@aaronstuder said:
@Dashrender said:
Well my boss hates facebook because her employees waste time on FB instead of doing their job.
Is your boss the director of HR for the company? If he feels so strongly, why isn't it block via your firewall?
Yes, Boss = CEO, CFO, Head of HR, etc. We are a pretty small company all things consider (88 people total).
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@Dashrender said:
What she hates is that people aren't doing their work. She believe that if Facebook didn't exist that the employees would have little else to do and would therefore do their work. Of course this is the fallacy.
This is why it's so important to hire people that love there jobs
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@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
When my boss saw that you could integrate Facebook into Outlook, she was none to happy.
She was unhappy that you COULD integrate it? That's an odd reaction. That sounds like someone who is mad at Facebook and upset that other people enjoy it. Like hating it when you see kids having fun at the park. No one is making you use the park or have kids, but some people are just unhappy that other people are happy with things or like different things than them.
Well my boss hates facebook because her employees waste time on FB instead of doing their job.
It's a pretty big issue that she has no issue with the employees or the lack of work, but chooses to hate FB who is innocent in the situation. I feel like she just uses work as a means to vent her prejudices - she is not reacting like a person genuinely upset by the lack of work being done.
Do you feel that she would equally hate food if they were wasting their time eating?
I don't have to provide a feeling, I know she does.. because the staff does that too. They have food days all the time where they all bring in food then snack on it all day, away from their desks.
I'm sure she actually could care less about Facebook itself. What she hates is that people aren't doing their work. She believe that if Facebook didn't exist that the employees would have little else to do and would therefore do their work. Of course this is the fallacy.
But none of that would lead to being upset with Facebook itself.
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@aaronstuder said:
@Dashrender said:
What she hates is that people aren't doing their work. She believe that if Facebook didn't exist that the employees would have little else to do and would therefore do their work. Of course this is the fallacy.
This is why it's so important to hire people that love there jobs
And to provide jobs that people will love.
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@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
When my boss saw that you could integrate Facebook into Outlook, she was none to happy.
She was unhappy that you COULD integrate it? That's an odd reaction. That sounds like someone who is mad at Facebook and upset that other people enjoy it. Like hating it when you see kids having fun at the park. No one is making you use the park or have kids, but some people are just unhappy that other people are happy with things or like different things than them.
Well my boss hates facebook because her employees waste time on FB instead of doing their job.
It's a pretty big issue that she has no issue with the employees or the lack of work, but chooses to hate FB who is innocent in the situation. I feel like she just uses work as a means to vent her prejudices - she is not reacting like a person genuinely upset by the lack of work being done.
Do you feel that she would equally hate food if they were wasting their time eating?
I don't have to provide a feeling, I know she does.. because the staff does that too. They have food days all the time where they all bring in food then snack on it all day, away from their desks.
I'm sure she actually could care less about Facebook itself. What she hates is that people aren't doing their work. She believe that if Facebook didn't exist that the employees would have little else to do and would therefore do their work. Of course this is the fallacy.
Wouldn't they just "waste" their time on something else?
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@coliver said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
When my boss saw that you could integrate Facebook into Outlook, she was none to happy.
She was unhappy that you COULD integrate it? That's an odd reaction. That sounds like someone who is mad at Facebook and upset that other people enjoy it. Like hating it when you see kids having fun at the park. No one is making you use the park or have kids, but some people are just unhappy that other people are happy with things or like different things than them.
Well my boss hates facebook because her employees waste time on FB instead of doing their job.
It's a pretty big issue that she has no issue with the employees or the lack of work, but chooses to hate FB who is innocent in the situation. I feel like she just uses work as a means to vent her prejudices - she is not reacting like a person genuinely upset by the lack of work being done.
Do you feel that she would equally hate food if they were wasting their time eating?
I don't have to provide a feeling, I know she does.. because the staff does that too. They have food days all the time where they all bring in food then snack on it all day, away from their desks.
I'm sure she actually could care less about Facebook itself. What she hates is that people aren't doing their work. She believe that if Facebook didn't exist that the employees would have little else to do and would therefore do their work. Of course this is the fallacy.
Wouldn't they just "waste" their time on something else?
That's why he pointed out that it was a fallacy.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@coliver said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
When my boss saw that you could integrate Facebook into Outlook, she was none to happy.
She was unhappy that you COULD integrate it? That's an odd reaction. That sounds like someone who is mad at Facebook and upset that other people enjoy it. Like hating it when you see kids having fun at the park. No one is making you use the park or have kids, but some people are just unhappy that other people are happy with things or like different things than them.
Well my boss hates facebook because her employees waste time on FB instead of doing their job.
It's a pretty big issue that she has no issue with the employees or the lack of work, but chooses to hate FB who is innocent in the situation. I feel like she just uses work as a means to vent her prejudices - she is not reacting like a person genuinely upset by the lack of work being done.
Do you feel that she would equally hate food if they were wasting their time eating?
I don't have to provide a feeling, I know she does.. because the staff does that too. They have food days all the time where they all bring in food then snack on it all day, away from their desks.
I'm sure she actually could care less about Facebook itself. What she hates is that people aren't doing their work. She believe that if Facebook didn't exist that the employees would have little else to do and would therefore do their work. Of course this is the fallacy.
Wouldn't they just "waste" their time on something else?
That's why he pointed out that it was a fallacy.
Ah, there we go... reading comprehension is a bit off today.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
When my boss saw that you could integrate Facebook into Outlook, she was none to happy.
She was unhappy that you COULD integrate it? That's an odd reaction. That sounds like someone who is mad at Facebook and upset that other people enjoy it. Like hating it when you see kids having fun at the park. No one is making you use the park or have kids, but some people are just unhappy that other people are happy with things or like different things than them.
Well my boss hates facebook because her employees waste time on FB instead of doing their job.
It's a pretty big issue that she has no issue with the employees or the lack of work, but chooses to hate FB who is innocent in the situation. I feel like she just uses work as a means to vent her prejudices - she is not reacting like a person genuinely upset by the lack of work being done.
Do you feel that she would equally hate food if they were wasting their time eating?
I don't have to provide a feeling, I know she does.. because the staff does that too. They have food days all the time where they all bring in food then snack on it all day, away from their desks.
I'm sure she actually could care less about Facebook itself. What she hates is that people aren't doing their work. She believe that if Facebook didn't exist that the employees would have little else to do and would therefore do their work. Of course this is the fallacy.
But none of that would lead to being upset with Facebook itself.
It's an easy to put your finger on time waster - so she finds it's integration as yet another way people can waste time.
I'm sure if she could find value in FB (FYI, she does not have an account herself, so she finds no value of any kind in FB - heck, she doesn't even have a personal email address) then having it integrated might have more value, but instead, she can see it actively take people away from their jobs that they should be doing instead.
I do realize that replacing those people is the only real answer to that problem..
