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    • BRRABillB
      BRRABill
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      I have a DELL T320.

      Apparently it has an INTERNAL SD card. (Interesting from the articles I read, it appears to be a redundant internal SD card reader for hypervisor usage.) Though I did not purchase that with my server.

      So I could try to acquire one (or install a thrid party SD card reader) or just use a USB stick.

      Go with the USB stick?

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender @BRRABill
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        @BRRABill said:

        So, here is my scenario...

        I have this DELL server. There are two arrays in it.

        Array1 is the troublesome SSD array. It is where XS is installed, and also where the VMs reside. This array need sto be replaced.
        Array2 is the SATA array that came with the server. Two 7.2K drives in RAID1. (Originally purchased just to run Hyper-V, which I am now no longer using.)

        Is there a way to install XS to a USB, and boot the server off that USB and have it recognize the VMs that are currently on Array1? I could even copy them to Array 2 (is THAT possible) while I figure out what I am going to do purchasing new drives for an array.

        Xen is just linux underneight, so sure you can do this.. you'll likely need to do it while the VMs are turned off. If push comes to shove, you can do it a the linux command line with cp from one mount point to another.

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @BRRABill
          last edited by

          @BRRABill said:

          I have a DELL T320.

          Apparently it has an INTERNAL SD card. (Interesting from the articles I read, it appears to be a redundant internal SD card reader for hypervisor usage.) Though I did not purchase that with my server.

          So I could try to acquire one (or install a thrid party SD card reader) or just use a USB stick.

          Go with the USB stick?

          Call XByte, they should be able to direct you.

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          • BRRABillB
            BRRABill @Dashrender
            last edited by

            @Dashrender said:

            Call XByte, they should be able to direct you.

            My preliminary searches online have the reader at around $75.

            I figure i can get a USB drive for much, much less.

            Any reason to go SD here?

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender
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              I used an off the shelf USB stick in my first ESXi server for 5 years. But when I tried to clone it others.. those others would never work.

              I've been using SD for around 2 years now.. they always clone without issues - can't explain the difference...

              Do you need an actual reader? or does the server just have an SD slot? My HP DL380p G8 has a SD slot directly on the mobo.

              That's why I said call Xbyte.. they should tell you the options.

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              • BRRABillB
                BRRABill @Dashrender
                last edited by BRRABill

                @Dashrender said:

                That's why I said call Xbyte.. they should tell you the options.

                I contacted DELL support. I do NOT have a reader on the mobo. I need the add-on part, which as I said probably costs around $75. I'll check and report back.

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                • MattSpellerM
                  MattSpeller @Dashrender
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                  @Dashrender said:

                  I used an off the shelf USB stick in my first ESXi server for 5 years. But when I tried to clone it others.. those others would never work.

                  I've been using SD for around 2 years now.. they always clone without issues - can't explain the difference...

                  Do you need an actual reader? or does the server just have an SD slot? My HP DL380p G8 has a SD slot directly on the mobo.

                  That's why I said call Xbyte.. they should tell you the options.

                  I never had any issues with USB sticks but I used good quality ones

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                  • BRRABillB
                    BRRABill @MattSpeller
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                    @MattSpeller said:

                    I never had any issues with USB sticks but I used good quality ones

                    Are you saying this one I got free from my grocery store isn't of good quality?

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                    • MattSpellerM
                      MattSpeller @BRRABill
                      last edited by MattSpeller

                      @BRRABill said:

                      @MattSpeller said:

                      I never had any issues with USB sticks but I used good quality ones

                      Are you saying this one I got free from my grocery store isn't of good quality?

                      Depends if they gave it to you or if you picked it up off the floor 😄

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                      • BRRABillB
                        BRRABill @MattSpeller
                        last edited by

                        @MattSpeller said:

                        Depends if they gave it to you or if you picked it up off the floor 😄

                        LOL.

                        What brands do you consider "good quality"?

                        I was also thinking a slim one would be good to fit into the front of the server.

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                        • MattSpellerM
                          MattSpeller @BRRABill
                          last edited by

                          @BRRABill said:

                          @MattSpeller said:

                          Depends if they gave it to you or if you picked it up off the floor 😄

                          LOL.

                          What brands do you consider "good quality"?

                          I was also thinking a slim one would be good to fit into the front of the server.

                          Uhhh it's been a while... I'm pretty out of date. I'd encourage others to chime in.

                          Maybe this one for it's size?

                          http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA7RD3HB0756&cm_re=usb_drive--20-242-107--Product

                          If I were buying one today for myself or a "critical duty" I'd get these, no question. Best reviewed ones I can find.

                          http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA7RD2WW6360&cm_re=sandisk_extreme--20-171-972--Product

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                          • DustinB3403D
                            DustinB3403
                            last edited by DustinB3403

                            I generally go with anything that I can get a 5 pack of. A 5 pack of USB drives at 16gb capacity for $20-30 should hold you over for the life of the server.

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                            • J
                              Jason Banned
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                              We use SD Cards in RAID for OS on Hypervisors.

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                              • wrx7mW
                                wrx7m
                                last edited by wrx7m

                                I have two Dell R720XDs with redundant SD cards running ESXi6. I have two more R710s running 16GB Sandisk Ultra Fit USB 3.0 Flash Drives, also running ESXi 6. I got them for three reasons- The had great reviews, they are cheap and they are tiny, which means they are a lot less likely to get knocked off or broken in the USB port.

                                http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820173033&cm_re=ultra_fit--20-173-033--Product

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                                • BRRABillB
                                  BRRABill @MattSpeller
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                                  @MattSpeller said:

                                  If I were buying one today for myself or a "critical duty" I'd get these, no question. Best reviewed ones I can find.

                                  That is some serious USB drive.

                                  I have a feeling a lot of the price is driven by features you wouldn't need for this purpose, though.

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                                  • MattSpellerM
                                    MattSpeller @BRRABill
                                    last edited by

                                    @BRRABill said:

                                    @MattSpeller said:

                                    If I were buying one today for myself or a "critical duty" I'd get these, no question. Best reviewed ones I can find.

                                    That is some serious USB drive.

                                    I have a feeling a lot of the price is driven by features you wouldn't need for this purpose, though.

                                    Indeed, I'd stick with a good name brand one, tiny thumbnail form factor if that's what floats your boat.

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                                    • BRRABillB
                                      BRRABill
                                      last edited by

                                      I had a thought on this over the weekend, which might help push my decision here.

                                      Since this is a DELL server, will it have any issues running off of non-DELL USB drives?

                                      I mean, you would think it wouldn't matter, but as we have seen, it certainly does not like non-DELL stuff.

                                      I could get the DELL SD reader and two DELL SD cards. But that seems like overkill.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                                        last edited by

                                        @BRRABill said in Dell PERC Question (Server Down):

                                        I had a thought on this over the weekend, which might help push my decision here.

                                        Since this is a DELL server, will it have any issues running off of non-DELL USB drives?

                                        I mean, you would think it wouldn't matter, but as we have seen, it certainly does not like non-DELL stuff.

                                        I could get the DELL SD reader and two DELL SD cards. But that seems like overkill.

                                        I've never even seen a Dell branded USB drive.

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                                          Alex Sage @BRRABill
                                          last edited by Alex Sage

                                          @BRRABill

                                          I mean, you would think it wouldn't matter, but as we have seen, it certainly does not like non-DELL stuff.

                                          I have non-DELL memory and hard dives in my Dell Servers with no issues. I suggest you try it again, with new drives. I even have a same SSD drives you do running in a dell server with no issues.

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                                          • BRRABillB
                                            BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said in Dell PERC Question (Server Down):

                                            I've never even seen a Dell branded USB drive.

                                            They sell DELL SD cards with the DELL SD reader.

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