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    The Robber is really the victim?

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      stacksofplates @Minion Queen
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      @Minion-Queen said:

      When I worked in the legal field. Learned something fast. If you are defending yourself do it with purpose and at your full capabilities. In other words do not leave the perpetrator able to sue you for anything.

      I've heard too many people say they would just shoot the person in the knee. That won't fly.

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        Alex Sage @Minion Queen
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        @Minion-Queen said:

        When I worked in the legal field. Learned something fast. If you are defending yourself do it with purpose and at your full capabilities. In other words do not leave the perpetrator able to sue you for anything.

        So she should have hunted down his whole family, and killed them all?

        That seems like a strange thing to say... She did after all kill the guy she shot...

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          scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
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          @aaronstuder said:

          @Minion-Queen said:

          When I worked in the legal field. Learned something fast. If you are defending yourself do it with purpose and at your full capabilities. In other words do not leave the perpetrator able to sue you for anything.

          So she should have hunted down his whole family, and killed them all?

          That seems like a strange thing to say... She did after all kill the guy she shot...

          Welcome to the American legal system.

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            Alex Sage @stacksofplates
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            @johnhooks said:

            I've heard too many people say they would just shoot the person in the knee. That won't fly.

            Why not?

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              DustinB3403 @Alex Sage
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              @aaronstuder said:

              @johnhooks said:

              I've heard too many people say they would just shoot the person in the knee. That won't fly.

              Why not?

              Often because people can't aim for s**t

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                stacksofplates @Alex Sage
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                @aaronstuder said:

                @johnhooks said:

                I've heard too many people say they would just shoot the person in the knee. That won't fly.

                Why not?

                The robber could turn around and sue you. There was an incident where a guy was breaking into someone's house. He fell down their stairs and got hurt, but sued the owners and won because the stairs weren't up to code.

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                  wirestyle22 @stacksofplates
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                  @johnhooks said:

                  @aaronstuder said:

                  @johnhooks said:

                  I've heard too many people say they would just shoot the person in the knee. That won't fly.

                  Why not?

                  The robber could turn around and sue you. There was a story of a guy who was breaking into someone's house. He fell down their stairs and got hurt, but sued the owners and won because the stairs weren't up to code.

                  injustice is rampant

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                    stacksofplates
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                    That's why you hear people say to empty the whole magazine. If you are too precise it looks bad, but firing 10-15 rounds at least looks like you genuinely feared for your life.

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                    • DustinB3403D
                      DustinB3403
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                      In NY it's a fire at will if someone is breaking into your home and you have even the slightest fear for harm to you or your family.

                      But make certain that they are inside the house when they die, with a knife or some other weapon near by....

                      Also don't have the body leading away towards the exit... that never ends well....

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                        Alex Sage @stacksofplates
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                        @johnhooks said:

                        The robber could turn around and sue you. There was an incident where a guy was breaking into someone's house. He fell down their stairs and got hurt, but sued the owners and won because the stairs weren't up to code.

                        So, let him sue me. At least I don't have to live with the fact that I took a human life for the rest of my life.

                        People always say, "In X situation, I would do this" Truth is, in the situation, you never do what you think you would.

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                          stacksofplates @Alex Sage
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                          @aaronstuder said:

                          @johnhooks said:

                          The robber could turn around and sue you. There was an incident where a guy was breaking into someone's house. He fell down their stairs and got hurt, but sued the owners and won because the stairs weren't up to code.

                          So, let him sue me. At least I don't have to live with the fact that I took a human life for the rest of my life.

                          People always say, "In X situation, I would do this" Truth is, in the situation, you neverdo what you think you would.

                          First I don't think you would have a steady enough hand to shoot and hit a knee on purpose in that scenario. Second, how do you know he doesn't have a gun? You shoot him in the knee and then he kills you.

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                            alex.olynyk
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                            you can aim for his belly and maybe hit his large intestine? Oh, that might kill him too.

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                              brianlittlejohn
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                              I imagine in that situation you won't be thinking about what part of the body you are aiming at, all you will do is aim at the largest part of them (center mass)

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                                Alex Sage @stacksofplates
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                                @johnhooks said:

                                First I don't think you would have a steady enough hand to shoot and hit a knee on purpose in that scenario.

                                I completely agree. I never said anything about taking a knee shot.

                                I just wouldn't aim for a head shot. You have a much greater chance of hitting them in the chest and the person has much better chances for survival (if you miss the heart that is...)

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                                • alex.olynykA
                                  alex.olynyk
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                                  all this talk about killing makes me want to buy a gun

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                                    Carnival Boy
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                                    I find all this talking of killing people weird. In Europe, our houses contain little of value and burglars are generally young, desperate junkies after enough money for a fix. We don't have guns so we leave them to it and then replace everything under insurance. This seems a much simpler system to me 🙂

                                    I wouldn't want to kill someone cos they're trying to steel my Xbox.

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                                    • alex.olynykA
                                      alex.olynyk
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                                      but my wife would leave me

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                                        alex.olynyk
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                                        Sheldon: oh god oh god oh god, its alright, they didnt take my comic books

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                                          Alex Sage @stacksofplates
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                                          @johnhooks said:

                                          Second, how do you know he doesn't have a gun? You shoot him in the knee and then he kills you.

                                          If they reach for there waste band, or somewhere I can't see then all bets are off.

                                          Once you start firing a gun, most people just take off, even with a gun.

                                          Youtube Video

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                                          • alex.olynykA
                                            alex.olynyk
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                                            I have 2 dogs, hopefully the barking is enough to scare them off. If not, I guess Ill be meeting my maker.

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