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    ownCloud with Azure AD Integration?

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      scottalanmiller @jospoortvliet
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      @jospoortvliet said:

      well, as I said, not sure if Azure works - I do know that SAML is, in general, a huge-business thing, not a SMB thing... Didn't know Azure uses it, that's odd as it forces SMB to take on quite some costs.

      It's the new SMB thing because it is how Windows 10 comes out of the box. It's the new "small business" system from Microsoft. I think your concept of it being big business is at least two years out of date. Now it is very much the SMB thing. Microsoft even extends it to Linux desktops, for example.

      This is what any shop that doesn't run their own AD servers will be doing going forward.

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        scottalanmiller @jospoortvliet
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        @jospoortvliet said:

        Didn't know Azure uses it, that's odd as it forces SMB to take on quite some costs.

        Opposite, it removes the big costs that many just skipped before. It's totally included with other things for us, so it is basically free. Like Google Apps, every business needs email. If you have email from Microsoft, which is the leader in the business space, you get Azure AD for free. So it is pretty huge, especially in smaller businesses.

        It's not weird at all that the SMB uses it as they see it as free and requires nothing from them.

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          scottalanmiller
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          If you are an O365 customer...

          Running AD requires...

          • Running your own Windows server ($700 starter)
          • Managing your own Windows Server (requires a Windows Admin)
          • User CALs
          • License Management
          • You need to consider if you are going to have a second server, another $700 not including hardware.
          • Either IAAS ($100/mo) or a physical server or two to run AD on. That's big cost.
          • VPN to extend AD out to your end nodes out of the LAN

          Running Azure AD requires...

          • Nothing

          See why Azure AD is considered the SMB way to go?

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            jospoortvliet Vendor
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            ok, got it. Well - this is a business thing, if .com decides to open it (they've done it for other features before) that'd be nice. But it won't be for 9.0 😉

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              scottalanmiller @jospoortvliet
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              @jospoortvliet said:

              ok, got it. Well - this is a business thing, if .com decides to open it (they've done it for other features before) that'd be nice. But it won't be for 9.0 😉

              that's too bad, major setback for SMB users 😞 You should point out to them that that drives the SMBs to ODfB because that's integrated with what they already have and once paying similar amounts, why bring in another vendor and manage on their own?

              You want SMBs in your pocket so that as they grow they stay with you. You don't want to send the five person shops into your competitors arms because no one is keeping up with the times.

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                scottalanmiller
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                For comparison for a five person business per year...

                ODFB with all hosting and storage and backups included in the cost: $960
                ownCloud and needing you to manage your own: $3600

                Um... what's for big business vs. SMB?

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                  scottalanmiller
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                  ownCloud Commercial is really only for 100+ users and realistically only for much larger than that. They don't even pretend to have SMB offerings or pricing. Which is fine, but it is super important that OC understand that they are making themselves an enterprise only player commercially but leaving out key features that the SMB would expect and keeping them in the enterprise space where people are likely to have AD.

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                    scottalanmiller
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                    This is really a spot where SAML isn't needed, if .com wanted to hold that back. SAML is more enterprise, more of the time. What is needed is only Azure AD. A connector just for that would allow the SMB market to have access to basic SMB authentication while not exposing an enterprise only feature to the .org.

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                      jospoortvliet Vendor
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                      with regards to the VHDX, we decided to remove the VHDX for now, we can't built it due to a server problem... It'll be back but that can take a while. Sorry! Hope the other formats suffice.

                      Thanks for your feedback !

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                        scottalanmiller @jospoortvliet
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                        @jospoortvliet said:

                        with regards to the VHDX, we decided to remove the VHDX for now, we can't built it due to a server problem... It'll be back but that can take a while. Sorry! Hope the other formats suffice.

                        Thanks for your feedback !

                        I think that that was for the other thread.

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