Lost Access to Azure
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@BRRABill Azure.
Dropbox for business is mega expensive.
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@BRRABill said:
@aaronstuder said:
I know a handful of people that use it, and there very happy with it.
Azure or Dropbox for Business?
They aren't even remotely the same.
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Various things. Some things to Rackspace some things and Scott can fill you in on where each thing will go....
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@Breffni-Potter said:
Just curious, why are you still on Azure if you've had soooo many reliability issues?
Only reason we were ever one it, one rogue admin who would sneak stuff there. Almost nothing is there that went through proper review.
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Moving quite a few things to Digital Ocean and Linux. Many of the same things used to sneak things onto Azure were also used to sneak workloads onto Windows. Unbelievable number of problems caused by this process.
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@aaronstuder said:
I know a handful of people that use it, and there very happy with it.
Are they people who have carefully considered the alternatives? We know a lot of people who have used it and the issue levels are pretty high, as are the costs. Even if it worked really well, which is consistently does not, the cost is not that good. Not horrible, but not that good.
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@aaronstuder said:
@BRRABill Azure.
Dropbox for business is mega expensive.
As is Azure
We have some workloads having their cost cut by 95% moving off!
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@scottalanmiller said:
As is Azure
We have some workloads having their cost cut by 95% moving off!
Can you share those details?
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@FATeknollogee said:
Can you share those details?
The combination of moving from Azure to DO and from Windows to Linux has allowed some workloads to go from over $100/mo to $5/mo! We haven't had a chance to test performance yet outside of "it was adequate and it remains adequate" but my guess is that we will actually see an improvement.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@FATeknollogee said:
Can you share those details?
The combination of moving from Azure to DO and from Windows to Linux has allowed some workloads to go from over $100/mo to $5/mo! We haven't had a chance to test performance yet outside of "it was adequate and it remains adequate" but my guess is that we will actually see an improvement.
Why running on Windows on Azure? I thought they had some Linux images? (I've never used it but thought I heard that somewhere)
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@johnhooks said:
Why running on Windows on Azure? I thought they had some Linux images? (I've never used it but thought I heard that somewhere)
Yeah, but why use that either? The only reason I would look to Azure is for a Windows dominated service, and that was the excuse used to get the services there. This ignored the fact that Windows made the service work and Azure made the hosting worse. Together, it was pretty awful.
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@scottalanmiller said:
Moving quite a few things to Digital Ocean and Linux.
Digital Ocean is the cloud service & Linux is the o/s?
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@FATeknollogee said:
@scottalanmiller said:
Moving quite a few things to Digital Ocean and Linux.
Digital Ocean is the cloud service & Linux is the o/s?
Correct. Nearly everything we run is CentOS 7 Linux these days. And we use a mix of Rackspace and Digital Ocean for our primary cloud providers. We use Vultr just a little for special cases. And while we like AWS a lot, they don't tend to work well for our needs.
Azure we use, again, for special purposes but working to reduce that as much as possible. It's a very rare workload that works well there and we are finding that sweet spot to be getting smaller and smaller.
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I see that ownCloud is available on DO.
Anyone using it hosted on DO?
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@FATeknollogee said:
I see that ownCloud is available on DO.
It's available anywhere, just install it
DO just happens to make a handy installer for it, but it uses Ubuntu 14.04, I believe, which I am not going to touch. I would do my own install of ownCloud there (or anywhere.) Those prebuilt systems are find for playing with an app that you have never seen before, but are really not okay for production usage. If you can't build it yourself you can't reliably admin the box, especially once updates are needed!ownCloud specifically is far better on Vultr than DO because of Vultr's storage oriented large capacity SATA options.
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but it uses Ubuntu 14.04, I believe, which I am not going to touch
You say from your 14.04 based Mint laptop
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@johnhooks said:
but it uses Ubuntu 14.04, I believe, which I am not going to touch
You say from your 14.04 based Mint laptop
I know, I hate that they decided to do that.
