Windows 10 Auto Update
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@BRRABill said:
I spoke to one of the people last night.
The conversation had a few lines something to the affect of
"Yeah something came up about an upgrade, but I didn't really read it. Or I walked away or something. But it certainly wasn't clear."Yes it was - but it wasn't a flashing red light telling them that even if the sales person had an aneurysm, he wouldn't sell them the RV, whoops - I mean install Windows 10.
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I spoke to one of the people last night.
The conversation had a few lines something to the affect of
"Yeah something came up about an upgrade, but I didn't really read it THOROUGHLY. Or I walked away or something. But it certainly wasn't clear."I fixed it for myself.
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Hard to believe that it didn't mention Windows 10 somewhere. Has anyone seen the upgrade notice to know what it says?
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I can't seem to find a picture of what people are getting. Seems pretty likely that it mentions Windows 10, though.
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Seems like from what I am reading they make it hard to cancel out. AKA, there is no "CANCEL I"M NOT INTERESTED" type button.
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@BRRABill said:
Seems like from what I am reading they make it hard to cancel out. AKA, there is no "CANCEL I"M NOT INTERESTED" type button.
Hmmm... interesting. But this hasn't hit the news yet? That feels unlikely.
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Well, it looks like this:
http://www.extremetech.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Win10.jpg
I could see how people might get confused thinking there is no other option.
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@BRRABill said:
I could see how people might get confused thinking there is no other option.
If their response was "I was given no other option", then okay. If their response was "I thought that I was forced to upgrade but didn't spend a moment looking at this..." then I read that as "I couldn't be bothered to not just accept it and complain later."
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@BRRABill said:
Well, it looks like this:
http://www.extremetech.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Win10.jpg
I could see how people might get confused thinking there is no other option.
I've been getting that prompt on my Win 7 Enterprise for a few weeks now. It comes up every time I restart the computer no matter how many times I tell it not to. Tempted to have the Desktop Admin image my machine.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@BRRABill said:
Seems like from what I am reading they make it hard to cancel out. AKA, there is no "CANCEL I"M NOT INTERESTED" type button.
Hmmm... interesting. But this hasn't hit the news yet? That feels unlikely.
Oh but it did - Paul Thurrott mentioned it on Windows Weekly 2-3 weeks ago. I'm guessing MS just hasn't deployed this change to the extreme yet.
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@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@BRRABill said:
Seems like from what I am reading they make it hard to cancel out. AKA, there is no "CANCEL I"M NOT INTERESTED" type button.
Hmmm... interesting. But this hasn't hit the news yet? That feels unlikely.
Oh but it did - Paul Thurrott mentioned it on Windows Weekly 2-3 weeks ago. I'm guessing MS just hasn't deployed this change to the extreme yet.
He mentioned that there was no way to not accept it?
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@coliver said:
@BRRABill said:
Well, it looks like this:
http://www.extremetech.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Win10.jpg
I could see how people might get confused thinking there is no other option.
I've been getting that prompt on my Win 7 Enterprise for a few weeks now. It comes up every time I restart the computer no matter how many times I tell it not to. Tempted to have the Desktop Admin image my machine.
That won't help. Assuming your company is not using WSUS, you'll get this again as soon as Windows downloads update from Windows Update.
Question - How are you telling it no? by clicking the red x? that's not exactly telling it no. lol
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@BRRABill said:
Seems like from what I am reading they make it hard to cancel out. AKA, there is no "CANCEL I"M NOT INTERESTED" type button.
Hmmm... interesting. But this hasn't hit the news yet? That feels unlikely.
Oh but it did - Paul Thurrott mentioned it on Windows Weekly 2-3 weeks ago. I'm guessing MS just hasn't deployed this change to the extreme yet.
He mentioned that there was no way to not accept it?
Yep. He specifically said the only way to cancel it is to click the Red X. Some people will do that, but most won't. They will think they have no choice and choice one of the buttons.
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@Dashrender said:
@coliver said:
@BRRABill said:
Well, it looks like this:
http://www.extremetech.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Win10.jpg
I could see how people might get confused thinking there is no other option.
I've been getting that prompt on my Win 7 Enterprise for a few weeks now. It comes up every time I restart the computer no matter how many times I tell it not to. Tempted to have the Desktop Admin image my machine.
That won't help. Assuming your company is not using WSUS, you'll get this again as soon as Windows downloads update from Windows Update.
Question - How are you telling it no? by clicking the red x? that's not exactly telling it no. lol
I haven't found a way to tell it "no". I do the install tonight method and then tell it to never remind me again when that prompt comes up. I installed the update that is supposed to disable it too.... didn't work.
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@coliver said:
@Dashrender said:
@coliver said:
@BRRABill said:
Well, it looks like this:
http://www.extremetech.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Win10.jpg
I could see how people might get confused thinking there is no other option.
I've been getting that prompt on my Win 7 Enterprise for a few weeks now. It comes up every time I restart the computer no matter how many times I tell it not to. Tempted to have the Desktop Admin image my machine.
That won't help. Assuming your company is not using WSUS, you'll get this again as soon as Windows downloads update from Windows Update.
Question - How are you telling it no? by clicking the red x? that's not exactly telling it no. lol
I haven't found a way to tell it "no". I do the install tonight method and then tell it to never remind me again when that prompt comes up. I installed the update that is supposed to disable it too.... didn't work.
Update? I am unaware of a MS update that disables it.. There are registry hacks and GPOs that can be deployed.. but I'm unaware of an app.
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@Dashrender said:
@coliver said:
@Dashrender said:
@coliver said:
@BRRABill said:
Well, it looks like this:
http://www.extremetech.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Win10.jpg
I could see how people might get confused thinking there is no other option.
I've been getting that prompt on my Win 7 Enterprise for a few weeks now. It comes up every time I restart the computer no matter how many times I tell it not to. Tempted to have the Desktop Admin image my machine.
That won't help. Assuming your company is not using WSUS, you'll get this again as soon as Windows downloads update from Windows Update.
Question - How are you telling it no? by clicking the red x? that's not exactly telling it no. lol
I haven't found a way to tell it "no". I do the install tonight method and then tell it to never remind me again when that prompt comes up. I installed the update that is supposed to disable it too.... didn't work.
Update? I am unaware of a MS update that disables it.. There are registry hacks and GPOs that can be deployed.. but I'm unaware of an app.
Yep, there is an update that you can download from Microsoft that is supposed to prevent the prompt from coming up.
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@Dashrender said:
Yep. He specifically said the only way to cancel it is to click the Red X. Some people will do that, but most won't. They will think they have no choice and choice one of the buttons.
This is yet another example of where I don;t think people have to know there is a special way to figure this out that is different than everything else they are used to doing.
Now, @scottalanmiller, if you are saying that if this had said "We are going to come and shoot you. Shoot you dead." with the same options, that they might have just stopped there and asked someone. Well, I guess I could understand that.
But trying to react to a dialog box, expecting it to be the same as all the other dialog boxes you've ever seen, is certainly not out of the question
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@BRRABill said:
But trying to react to a dialog box, expecting it to be the same as all the other dialog boxes you've ever seen, is certainly not out of the question
But if he did that, wouldn't clicking the X close it? It's that he reacted to it as a special case that caused the issue, right?
Granted, if that is the message that he got, that's a pretty crappy one. But on the other hand, if he has decided that he wants to be the IT person, it's his own fault for hiring an IT person who is confused by dialogues, right? Is he failing at hiring himself or not knowing the job he hired himself for or both
Only semi-tongue in cheek. The idea of not keeping Windows up to date is a power user one for home and an IT one for the office. So we have to decide what role he is playing and what his responsibility is. Is he running as the local admin? He's decided to take on the role of the admin... it's his responsibility to understand the ramifications of his actions and to stay up to date on how the system must be configured and what it will do. He doesn't get a free pass to not have IT expertise, no one does. He's always free to not use computers or to hire skilled people or to educate himself the same that all of us have to do. He's also free to choose to skip all that and hope for the best, and often that works (this is what "average" people do.) And when they do, they take chances.
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@BRRABill said:
@Dashrender said:
Yep. He specifically said the only way to cancel it is to click the Red X. Some people will do that, but most won't. They will think they have no choice and choice one of the buttons.
This is yet another example of where I don;t think people have to know there is a special way to figure this out that is different than everything else they are used to doing.
Now, @scottalanmiller, if you are saying that if this had said "We are going to come and shoot you. Shoot you dead." with the same options, that they might have just stopped there and asked someone. Well, I guess I could understand that.
But trying to react to a dialog box, expecting it to be the same as all the other dialog boxes you've ever seen, is certainly not out of the question
The thing is that people are doing it wrong - And this is something I agree with Scott on. They are making excuses instead of learning their tech.
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@Dashrender said:
The thing is that people are doing it wrong - And this is something I agree with Scott on. They are making excuses instead of learning their tech.
And I totally believe that it is their prerogative if they want to learn the tech or not, or to hire an expert or not. But in no case do they get special pity, it's up to them to determine what they think things are worth, invest properly and live with the consequences of their decisions just like the rest of us have to.
