Analysis of Locky ransomware
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@BRRABill said:
@JaredBusch said:
You still need backup. Having files offsite does not resolve that issue.
That's where the confusion still lies for me.
How are people backing up their data that is solely in OneDrive or Amazon Drive, etc..
Well those two options specifically don't have promises from the vendor for backups - but you could probably sweat talk them into restores.
ODfB on the other hand is SharePoint, and assuming we're talking about O365, then MS will do restores from the backups they take.
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I wonder if there are services out there that do backups of online services. I bet there are.
OFF TO GOOGLE!
I know, for example, that Datto does Office365 (and other cloud services) backups. But I wonder if there is anything for straight OneDrive. Take local totally out of the equation.
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@BRRABill said:
@Dashrender said:
Just tossing this out there - Scott's suggestion isn't about offsite files, it's just about not being local on the machine.
Well then where would these "non local" files be stored?
Where ever you want them - on a LAN based SharePoint server or ownCloud server. They wouldn't be offsite, just not local to the machine in question.
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@Dashrender said:
Where ever you want them - on a LAN based SharePoint server or ownCloud server. They wouldn't be offsite, just not local to the machine in question.
Ah, I see.
I guess I am thinking more of the individual user.
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@BRRABill said:
@Dashrender said:
Where ever you want them - on a LAN based SharePoint server or ownCloud server. They wouldn't be offsite, just not local to the machine in question.
Ah, I see.
I guess I am thinking more of the individual user.
In that case, correct OneDrive for a home user is not a backup - it's simply online storage.
Great question about what people should do for OneDrive/Google Drive, etc free services for actual backup.
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For your ownCloud server, you would just back that one up like usual. Single place to back stuff up.
Plus, if you do get whoopsied, you can restore previous file versions from within the ownCloud web interface.
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@Dashrender said:
Great question about what people should do for OneDrive/Google Drive, etc free services for actual backup.
Right.
Say the fictional Uncle I always talk about understands the need to not have any local files, so what can he do to ensure his files are not only in the cloud, but also backed up.
I'm wondering if something like DropBox Pro is the answer. 1TB. Versioning. The only downside is the cost at $10 a month. But if you factor is a "regular" backup service like Crashplan at $5 and then a few bucks a month for services such as OneDrive, maybe it is worth it.
Though it still leaves you high and dry if DropBox fubars your data or goes belly up.
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@BRRABill said:
@Dashrender said:
Great question about what people should do for OneDrive/Google Drive, etc free services for actual backup.
Right.
Say the fictional Uncle I always talk about understands the need to not have any local files, so what can he do to ensure his files are not only in the cloud, but also backed up.
I'm wondering if something like DropBox Pro is the answer. 1TB. Versioning. The only downside is the cost at $10 a month. But if you factor is a "regular" backup service like Crashplan at $5 and then a few bucks a month for services such as OneDrive, maybe it is worth it.
Though it still leaves you high and dry if DropBox fubars your data or goes belly up.
This is why you would want a 3rd party service to do the backups.
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The issue with backups is you need to know when you were infected. We have 14 days worth of backups. If I don't know I'm infected by the 14th day then the backup will contain the virus as well. You'll have less encrypted files but hope that nothing extremely crucial was affected.
I actually just send out a notice about this company-wide right before you posted. Ransomware is annoying.
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@dafyre said:
This is why you would want a 3rd party service to do the backups.
If there is such a thing.
Google brought up a few places, but none of them look particularly legit.
I can't do it right now but I'll look into it some more. Or maybe someone knows and will chime in.
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@BRRABill said:
@dafyre said:
This is why you would want a 3rd party service to do the backups.
If there is such a thing.
Google brought up a few places, but none of them look particularly legit.
I can't do it right now but I'll look into it some more. Or maybe someone knows and will chime in.
Third party service to do backups of what?
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@scottalanmiller said:
@BRRABill said:
@dafyre said:
This is why you would want a 3rd party service to do the backups.
If there is such a thing.
Google brought up a few places, but none of them look particularly legit.
I can't do it right now but I'll look into it some more. Or maybe someone knows and will chime in.
Third party service to do backups of what?
OneDrive. Without using a local PC.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@BRRABill said:
@dafyre said:
This is why you would want a 3rd party service to do the backups.
If there is such a thing.
Google brought up a few places, but none of them look particularly legit.
I can't do it right now but I'll look into it some more. Or maybe someone knows and will chime in.
Third party service to do backups of what?
To back up your DropBox / Google Drive / OneDrive accounts in the case that they can't / won't restore from backups or their services shuts down unexpectedly.
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@wirestyle22 said:
I actually just send out a notice about this company-wide right before you posted. Ransomware is annoying.
What was said in your notice?
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@dafyre said:
To back up your DropBox / Google Drive / OneDrive accounts in the case that they can't / won't restore from backups or their services shuts down unexpectedly.
Exactly.
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@FATeknollogee said:
@wirestyle22 said:
I actually just send out a notice about this company-wide right before you posted. Ransomware is annoying.
What was said in your notice?
I just made people aware of it and explained what ransomeware is. I also told them to be careful when they type URL's into their browser etc because those very similar URL's are purchased specifically for that purpose etc. Typical stuff
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@BRRABill said:
@Dashrender said:
Great question about what people should do for OneDrive/Google Drive, etc free services for actual backup.
Right.
Say the fictional Uncle I always talk about understands the need to not have any local files, so what can he do to ensure his files are not only in the cloud, but also backed up.
I'm wondering if something like DropBox Pro is the answer. 1TB. Versioning. The only downside is the cost at $10 a month. But if you factor is a "regular" backup service like Crashplan at $5 and then a few bucks a month for services such as OneDrive, maybe it is worth it.
Though it still leaves you high and dry if DropBox fubars your data or goes belly up.
Well, when you're talking about levels like this - this is like expecting MS to fubar something - sure it can happen, just look at Scott's accounts, but I'm guessing that's pretty rare.
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@Dashrender said:
@BRRABill said:
@Dashrender said:
Great question about what people should do for OneDrive/Google Drive, etc free services for actual backup.
Right.
Say the fictional Uncle I always talk about understands the need to not have any local files, so what can he do to ensure his files are not only in the cloud, but also backed up.
I'm wondering if something like DropBox Pro is the answer. 1TB. Versioning. The only downside is the cost at $10 a month. But if you factor is a "regular" backup service like Crashplan at $5 and then a few bucks a month for services such as OneDrive, maybe it is worth it.
Though it still leaves you high and dry if DropBox fubars your data or goes belly up.
Well, when you're talking about levels like this - this is like expecting MS to fubar something - sure it can happen, just look at Scott's accounts, but I'm guessing that's pretty rare.
Rare yes. But paying something like $5 a month to Crashplan to be able to back up my Amazon files seems like a no brainer to me.
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@dafyre said:
@Dashrender said:
@BRRABill said:
@Dashrender said:
Great question about what people should do for OneDrive/Google Drive, etc free services for actual backup.
Right.
Say the fictional Uncle I always talk about understands the need to not have any local files, so what can he do to ensure his files are not only in the cloud, but also backed up.
I'm wondering if something like DropBox Pro is the answer. 1TB. Versioning. The only downside is the cost at $10 a month. But if you factor is a "regular" backup service like Crashplan at $5 and then a few bucks a month for services such as OneDrive, maybe it is worth it.
Though it still leaves you high and dry if DropBox fubars your data or goes belly up.
Well, when you're talking about levels like this - this is like expecting MS to fubar something - sure it can happen, just look at Scott's accounts, but I'm guessing that's pretty rare.
Rare yes. But paying something like $5 a month to Crashplan to be able to back up my Amazon files seems like a no brainer to me.
But if you are paying $10 to DropBox pro, now you're making it 50% more expensive..
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@Dashrender said:
@dafyre said:
@Dashrender said:
@BRRABill said:
@Dashrender said:
Great question about what people should do for OneDrive/Google Drive, etc free services for actual backup.
Right.
Say the fictional Uncle I always talk about understands the need to not have any local files, so what can he do to ensure his files are not only in the cloud, but also backed up.
I'm wondering if something like DropBox Pro is the answer. 1TB. Versioning. The only downside is the cost at $10 a month. But if you factor is a "regular" backup service like Crashplan at $5 and then a few bucks a month for services such as OneDrive, maybe it is worth it.
Though it still leaves you high and dry if DropBox fubars your data or goes belly up.
Well, when you're talking about levels like this - this is like expecting MS to fubar something - sure it can happen, just look at Scott's accounts, but I'm guessing that's pretty rare.
Rare yes. But paying something like $5 a month to Crashplan to be able to back up my Amazon files seems like a no brainer to me.
But if you are paying $10 to DropBox pro, now you're making it 50% more expensive..
It depends on how much your data is worth to you. In my case, it's wedding pictures and video, and movies that I'd rather not have to rip again, family pictures and video going back years and years... It's worth $15 a month to me to keep it.
