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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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      @Dashrender said:

      I was talking a bit more generically for my DHCP server on my LAN - if a laptop stays off beyond my 8 lease, that IP will be assigned to something else.

      What's the use case for doing that, though?

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      • dafyreD
        dafyre @Dashrender
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        @Dashrender said:

        @dafyre

        I suppose that ZT could be having their DHCP assign static like addresses. So this may not be an issue on ZT.

        I was talking a bit more generically for my DHCP server on my LAN - if a laptop stays off beyond my 8 lease, that IP will be assigned to something else.

        Have you disconnected something from ZT for say 20 days and ensured when it came back online that it got the same IP?

        Not quite that long, lol. But I have gone a week or two. It does "DHCP" not really true DHCP. Once I connect my laptop up, it associates that laptop with 192.168.100.5, and until I delete the laptop from my list of ZT devices, it will always get 100.5 -- that's the way it appears to work.

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said:

          @Dashrender said:

          I was talking a bit more generically for my DHCP server on my LAN - if a laptop stays off beyond my 8 lease, that IP will be assigned to something else.

          What's the use case for doing that, though?

          What do you mean? This is the default way windows DHCP works. After the IP lease expires, it simply goes back into the pool.

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          • dafyreD
            dafyre @scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            @scottalanmiller said:

            @Dashrender said:

            I was talking a bit more generically for my DHCP server on my LAN - if a laptop stays off beyond my 8 lease, that IP will be assigned to something else.

            What's the use case for doing that, though?

            He's talking about generic DHCP on a LAN.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @Dashrender
              last edited by

              @Dashrender said:

              @scottalanmiller said:

              @Dashrender said:

              I was talking a bit more generically for my DHCP server on my LAN - if a laptop stays off beyond my 8 lease, that IP will be assigned to something else.

              What's the use case for doing that, though?

              What do you mean? This is the default way windows DHCP works. After the IP lease expires, it simply goes back into the pool.

              The question is... why would you be using it in a ZT scenario? Why have DHCP for ZT addresses at all? What's the end goal?

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender @dafyre
                last edited by

                @dafyre said:

                @scottalanmiller said:

                @Dashrender said:

                I was talking a bit more generically for my DHCP server on my LAN - if a laptop stays off beyond my 8 lease, that IP will be assigned to something else.

                What's the use case for doing that, though?

                He's talking about generic DHCP on a LAN.

                Correct - I am talking about my LAN. I'm not assigning IPs to the ZT network adapters.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                  last edited by

                  @Dashrender said:

                  @dafyre said:

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  @Dashrender said:

                  I was talking a bit more generically for my DHCP server on my LAN - if a laptop stays off beyond my 8 lease, that IP will be assigned to something else.

                  What's the use case for doing that, though?

                  He's talking about generic DHCP on a LAN.

                  Correct - I am talking about my LAN. I'm not assigning IPs to the ZT network adapters.

                  Oh, I guess I missed something then.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    @Dashrender said:

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    @Dashrender said:

                    I was talking a bit more generically for my DHCP server on my LAN - if a laptop stays off beyond my 8 lease, that IP will be assigned to something else.

                    What's the use case for doing that, though?

                    What do you mean? This is the default way windows DHCP works. After the IP lease expires, it simply goes back into the pool.

                    The question is... why would you be using it in a ZT scenario? Why have DHCP for ZT addresses at all? What's the end goal?

                    Yeah I don't, never said I did.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      @Dashrender said:

                      @dafyre said:

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      @Dashrender said:

                      I was talking a bit more generically for my DHCP server on my LAN - if a laptop stays off beyond my 8 lease, that IP will be assigned to something else.

                      What's the use case for doing that, though?

                      He's talking about generic DHCP on a LAN.

                      Correct - I am talking about my LAN. I'm not assigning IPs to the ZT network adapters.

                      Oh, I guess I missed something then.

                      I was giving @dafyre an example of when IP's change - my LAN based DHCP will give out the same IP to another device after a leas expires.

                      What we don't know - does the ZT DHCP follow normal protocols and hand out an IP after a lease expires? or does it assign it for life?

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                        last edited by

                        @Dashrender said:

                        What we don't know - does the ZT DHCP follow normal protocols and hand out an IP after a lease expires? or does it assign it for life?

                        There is no ZT DHCP. That's where the confusion came from. ZT does not use DHCP, so there is no connection to DHCP-like behaviour. Pertino does not either.

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                          Alex Sage @scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          There is no ZT DHCP.

                          What? Then how do addresses get assigned?

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
                            last edited by

                            @anonymous said:

                            What? Then how do addresses get assigned?

                            Via the client. Remember that the client talks to the server. No need for something like DHCP.

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                            • dafyreD
                              dafyre @scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              @anonymous said:

                              What? Then how do addresses get assigned?

                              Via the client. Remember that the client talks to the server. No need for something like DHCP.

                              Scott is correct here. If you check a Windows system with ZT installed, and look at the ipv4 properties of the adapter, you will see that by default the IP address & DNS boxes are set to "static" but they are blank.

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender
                                last edited by

                                Cool - OK then you can effectively say that the IP assigned on the ZT will never change 🙂

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                                • wrx7mW
                                  wrx7m
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                                  In terms of the gateway feature, is it Linux connector + bridged mode?

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                                  • dafyreD
                                    dafyre @wrx7m
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                                    @wrx7m said:

                                    In terms of the gateway feature, is it Linux connector + bridged mode?

                                    That is supposed to be the way it works, but I haven't been able to get it to work like that. 😞

                                    If I want it as a "gateway", I just set it up as a router, and add static routes on the physical routers on each site.

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @dafyre
                                      last edited by

                                      @dafyre said:

                                      @wrx7m said:

                                      In terms of the gateway feature, is it Linux connector + bridged mode?

                                      That is supposed to be the way it works, but I haven't been able to get it to work like that. 😞

                                      If I want it as a "gateway", I just set it up as a router, and add static routes on the physical routers on each site.

                                      that doesn't allow for ethernet level access - definitely not the same thing at all.

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                                      • dafyreD
                                        dafyre @Dashrender
                                        last edited by

                                        @Dashrender said:

                                        @dafyre said:

                                        @wrx7m said:

                                        In terms of the gateway feature, is it Linux connector + bridged mode?

                                        That is supposed to be the way it works, but I haven't been able to get it to work like that. 😞

                                        If I want it as a "gateway", I just set it up as a router, and add static routes on the physical routers on each site.

                                        that doesn't allow for ethernet level access - definitely not the same thing at all.

                                        Sadly, you are very much correct.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by

                                          That's why ZT refers to it as a bridge, not a router. It's true bridging functionality that is needed to make it work as intended.

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                                            last edited by

                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            That's why ZT refers to it as a bridge, not a router. It's true bridging functionality that is needed to make it work as intended.

                                            That's what I thought, but @dafyre is saying he's been unable to get it to work.

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