ThanksAJ in Car Accident
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He's been posting on FB, no mention of accident, so he must be OK.
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@Rob-Dunn I would skip mentioning the accident where I took out everyone's power too...
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@Rob-Dunn said:
He's been posting on FB, no mention of accident, so he must be OK.
Worried until I saw that, which is strange I've publicly insulted him many times on here and SW, but I'd hate for anything to happen to him... in principle.
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What happened:
Was passing a car when the road merged, he sped up and forced me onto the shoulder, snow grabbed my tires and I basically went square into a utility pole, completely breaking through the pole. Knocked out power to a few houses in the area (it's a pretty scarcely populated stretch), and totaled the truck. I was okay, but if you saw the vehicle, you'd understand why the fact I was alive, much less unhurt was a miracle. Stepped out of the car to live electrical lines not even ten feet above my head! Also something of a miracle I wasn't electrocuted...
But I'm okay...thankfully. Too much life left to live not to be!
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@tonyshowoff said:
@Rob-Dunn said:
He's been posting on FB, no mention of accident, so he must be OK.
Worried until I saw that, which is strange I've publicly insulted him many times on here and SW, but I'd hate for anything to happen to him... in principle.
Thank you?
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Glad that you are alive - sorry about the truck.
This is one of those things though that I hear two sides on when leaving a vehicle when it has struck a utility pole.
Live wires kill. I don't think anyone will question that - think we have all seen plenty of proof of that. But it reminds me of this PSA from Pugent Sound Electric:
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And seriously -
Glad you are alive. Just adds to your badass-dom in that you can say you walked away from taken out a power pole.
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@thanksajdotcom said:
@tonyshowoff said:
@Rob-Dunn said:
He's been posting on FB, no mention of accident, so he must be OK.
Worried until I saw that, which is strange I've publicly insulted him many times on here and SW, but I'd hate for anything to happen to him... in principle.
Thank you?
Sshh! I'm glad you're back
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4x4 is a beautiful thing
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@IRJ said:
4x4 is a beautiful thing
Not in snow, that's how accidents happen. If you want to keep moving regardless of the danger and risk an accident, then 4x4. If you want to stop moving when it is too unsafe to drive but avoid getting in accidents, the secret of the snow bound club is that rear wheel drive is the safest.
Rear wheel drive cars naturally want to go straight (and get stuck.) Front and all wheel drive like to keep moving but lose control when slowing down. So they "feel" safe because they don't get stuck, but they are much more dangerous because they have less control
Same reason why race cars are all rear wheel drive. At those speeds you might as well be on ice and front or all wheel drive are just impossible to control under those conditions.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@IRJ said:
4x4 is a beautiful thing
Not in snow, that's how accidents happen. If you want to keep moving regardless of the danger and risk an accident, then 4x4. If you want to stop moving when it is too unsafe to drive but avoid getting in accidents, the secret of the snow bound club is that rear wheel drive is the safest.
Rear wheel drive cars naturally want to go straight (and get stuck.) Front and all wheel drive like to keep moving but lose control when slowing down. So they "feel" safe because they don't get stuck, but they are much more dangerous because they have less control
Same reason why race cars are all rear wheel drive. At those speeds you might as well be on ice and front or all wheel drive are just impossible to control under those conditions.
That makes sense, but I was thinking traction.
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@IRJ said:
That makes sense, but I was thinking traction.
Traction is what kills people
Front wheel drive using traction to cause the car to spin and all wheel drive losing traction from the wheels pulling against each other. On snow, at speed, all wheel drive actually has the least traction. -
Front wheel and rear wheel have roughly equal traction, but one likes to make the car go nose forward, the other likes to make the car go ass first.
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@gjacobse said:
@IRJ said:
4x4 is a beautiful thing
Just means all 4 tyres spin..
And when tires spin... the car slides. With two wheel drive, two wheels tend to stay stuck to road. With all wheel drive, you easily have all four loose.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@IRJ said:
That makes sense, but I was thinking traction.
Traction is what kills people
Front wheel drive using traction to cause the car to spin and all wheel drive losing traction from the wheels pulling against each other...This is why tire places will often put the new tires on the rear of front wheel drive cars. It helps to prevent the rear from overtaking the front of the car.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@gjacobse said:
@IRJ said:
4x4 is a beautiful thing
Just means all 4 tyres spin..
And when tires spin... the car slides. With two wheel drive, two wheels tend to stay stuck to road. With all wheel drive, you easily have all four loose.
Can confirm. Slid into a ditch 3 days after getting my car (loose gravel, new driver, turn...in a manual...bad combo) because I was driving 4wd and thought it'd be better than RWD...nope. Learnt my lesson after that (also learnt to not cook the clutch on a curve...)
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Growing up in the snowiest populated part of the new world, I remember cocky all wheel drive people trying to follow me up I590 in Rochester. I was able to drive my rear wheel drive 1981 Monte Carlo boat up the unplowed passing lane at full speed with the floor pan riding the top of the snow the whole way without an issue. Some all wheel drives thought that if I could do it, they could do it and caused a huge pileup behind me. Shut the highway for the day. They spun out the instant that they hit the deep snow.
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Man, I miss rear-wheel drive cars.
I could go anywhere at all in my Firebirds, as long as I put the skinny tires on the back and a little weight in the rear-end. I hate that nearly everything is front-drive anymore. -
@art_of_shred said:
Man, I miss rear-wheel drive cars.
I could go anywhere at all in my Firebirds, as long as I put the skinny tires on the back and a little weight in the rear-end. I hate that nearly everything is front-drive anymore.I second that, RWD cars are 100x more fun. Having driven both extensively in the snow, you're crazy to think RWD is better. It's simply not. Not even close actually lol.
