How Do You Teach Everything in IT?
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@wirestyle22 said in How Do You Teach Everything in IT?:
@scottalanmiller Yeah. I still see posts about it on Spiceworks every now and then. You and I were having a conversation about the merits of Raid 10 (specifically to the solution I was discussing) which is what brought me here. /memories
Someone promoted RAID 5 within the last hour, for an 84TB array believe it or not!
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@scottalanmiller said in How Do You Teach Everything in IT?:
@wirestyle22 said in How Do You Teach Everything in IT?:
@scottalanmiller Yeah. I still see posts about it on Spiceworks every now and then. You and I were having a conversation about the merits of Raid 10 (specifically to the solution I was discussing) which is what brought me here. /memories
Someone promoted RAID 5 within the last hour, for an 84TB array believe it or not!
Have the link? This I HAVE to watch
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I'll look for it. I've lost it already. Was just one guy promoting it mid-thread. Nothing too serious. But he really got into why he liked it.
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The best part was he felt that "if you manage it well, RAID 5 is safe." Um... how do you "manage RAID 5 well?"
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@scottalanmiller His response was notifications/alerts and hotspares....
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@brianlittlejohn said in How Do You Teach Everything in IT?:
@scottalanmiller His response was notifications/alerts and hotspares....
I need to make some popcorn!
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He also called @scottalanmiller a troll and Spiceworks Jesus
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None of this can be real
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@brianlittlejohn said in How Do You Teach Everything in IT?:
@scottalanmiller His response was notifications/alerts and hotspares....
Oh man, even dumber than the initial post. Hot spares for RAID 5? how dumb is this guy!?!?
http://www.smbitjournal.com/2012/07/hot-spare-or-a-hot-mess/
And it makes it worse that he's read about what a bad idea it is and recommends it and uses it regardless and acts like he didn't know that he was putting the business at risk!
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I just forked the Exablox thread to its own location.
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@scottalanmiller said in How Do You Teach Everything in IT?:
@brianlittlejohn said in How Do You Teach Everything in IT?:
@scottalanmiller His response was notifications/alerts and hotspares....
Oh man, even dumber than the initial post. Hot spares for RAID 5? how dumb is this guy!?!?
http://www.smbitjournal.com/2012/07/hot-spare-or-a-hot-mess/
And it makes it worse that he's read about what a bad idea it is and recommends it and uses it regardless and acts like he didn't know that he was putting the business at risk!
I was going to chime and say hot/cold spares are irrelevant with OneBlox's distributed object store. We recover from a drive(s) failure without the need to have drive assets sitting passively by. After that's complete, we can recover from additional failures....all without replacing a hard drive. (Caveat: there needs to be enough capacity in the storage pool, but technically possible.)
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@SeanExablox said in How Do You Teach Everything in IT?:
@scottalanmiller said in How Do You Teach Everything in IT?:
@brianlittlejohn said in How Do You Teach Everything in IT?:
@scottalanmiller His response was notifications/alerts and hotspares....
Oh man, even dumber than the initial post. Hot spares for RAID 5? how dumb is this guy!?!?
http://www.smbitjournal.com/2012/07/hot-spare-or-a-hot-mess/
And it makes it worse that he's read about what a bad idea it is and recommends it and uses it regardless and acts like he didn't know that he was putting the business at risk!
I was going to chime and say hot/cold spares are irrelevant with OneBlox's distributed object store. We recover from a drive(s) failure without the need to have drive assets sitting passively by. After that's complete, we can recover from additional failures....all without replacing a hard drive. (Caveat: there needs to be enough capacity in the storage pool, but technically possible.)
Yeah, the idea of hot spares is very much a RAID-specific solution. Doesn't apply to object dat stores. Scale doesn't use hot spare either, just rebalances.
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@scottalanmiller said in How Do You Teach Everything in IT?:
@wirestyle22 said in How Do You Teach Everything in IT?:
@scottalanmiller said in How Do You Teach Everything in IT?:
@wirestyle22 said in How Do You Teach Everything in IT?:
Never heard of Exablox. Learned something. I've never had anything even remotely that large either though.
You can get them relatively small. Not SMALL, but not huge. Like 36TB is where you could start with one.
Our file server is 488 GB currently
Any idea of the cost for the most basic of models? Even a round-about?Too expensive for 488GB I'm afraid
@SeanExablox could tell you some starter prices.
@wirestyle22 it depends on how important the 488GB is to your organization. Lake Chelan Community Hospital has 1TB of medical records they need to protect from ransomware. They purchased OneBlox and with our immutable CDP they can recover from any ransomware infection.
OneBlox is $11,995 and you purchase drives at retail pricing (up to 8TB drives). We're running a promotion this month where we're giving away 72TB of storage when you purchase OneBlox...
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@scottalanmiller said in How Do You Teach Everything in IT?:
@SeanExablox What is a good starting TB size for looking at an Exablox solution?
ok on forked thread.
One comment on this thread before moving. It really depends on the value of the information to the company. I mentioned the ransomware sizing of 1TB, but this is the exception. We have many customers with less than 10TB backup and shared file serving problems that they start with a single OneBlox and don't fully populate. Our s/w features and scale-out mean they spend very little time managing storage, but have enterprise class features.
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@brianlittlejohn Looks like Scott has a new nickname!
Spiceworks Jesus!
Ha! Reminds me of supply-side Jesus (Sorry if too political, just remove it if so)
Supply Side Jesus by Al Franken -
@Brains I'm going to start signing things SWJ instead of SAM.
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@scottalanmiller said in How Do You Teach Everything in IT?:
@Brains I'm going to start signing things SWJ instead of SAM.
Thats not far enough Scott. We need to create a post to generate a list of quotes about SpiceWorks Jesus to include in your signature. Walking the NAS Sea or turning Water into Hardware Upgrades (im bad at these)
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So my question, I think, is how do we:
- Catalogue the knowledge needed for IT? I know of this done, literally, nowhere.
- Create a path or curriculum for learning these things?
- Create a means to present comprehensive basic, foundational IT knowledge?
Very valid points and questions, but in today's "IT age", even if we could catalog and/or collect all of this info into one place, it could still take years to review and learn from it, especially for "beginners". IT has become so vast and diverse that it's impossible for a true "renaissance man" to exist; nobody can "know it all".
It's unfortunate that someone with SAM's experience level and understanding could ever be seen as "stupid" for not knowing one little thing in a sea of information, but in general, that's one of the coolest things about IT: because it's so vast, "masters" always have an opportunity to learn things from beginners.
