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    Spec'ing a new workstation rig for my office

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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @technobabble
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      @technobabble said:

      VM for a Virtual Lab for testing Server 2012r2 (Can you run VMs inside VMs with their own Vnetwork?)

      yes but you really start hurting performance.

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        technobabble @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller Noted!

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          A Former User
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          sounds like you should just get a workstation (vanilla) and a esxi host.

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          • JaredBuschJ
            JaredBusch
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            I recently dropped a SSD in my desktop and it now flies right along. I would go with this:

            @Hubtech said:

            sounds like you should just get a workstation (vanilla) and a esxi host.

            I am still trying to get some gear for my office to have for testing. but no money for it and no used gear has fell in my lap yet.

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              A Former User @JaredBusch
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              @JaredBusch said:

              I recently dropped a SSD in my desktop and it now flies right along. I would go with this:

              @Hubtech said:

              sounds like you should just get a workstation (vanilla) and a esxi host.

              I am still trying to get some gear for my office to have for testing. but no money for it and no used gear has fell in my lap yet.

              Dude, I picked up some g5 dual quad xeon's for under 200 each. ebay bay bay

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender @A Former User
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                @Hubtech said:

                @JaredBusch said:

                I recently dropped a SSD in my desktop and it now flies right along. I would go with this:

                @Hubtech said:

                sounds like you should just get a workstation (vanilla) and a esxi host.

                I am still trying to get some gear for my office to have for testing. but no money for it and no used gear has fell in my lap yet.

                Dude, I picked up some g5 dual quad xeon's for under 200 each. ebay bay bay
                are you talking HP server?

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                • alexntgA
                  alexntg
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                  If you're considering running multiple VMs on your computer rather than running them on a server, you're going to need more IOPS. Consider using an SSD for a system drive and perhaps some tiered storage, such as Windows Storage Spaces, for your VM and data volume.

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                    technobabble
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                    Thanks @alexntg

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller
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                      Use SSD no matter what. Best investment for a desktop.

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                        technobabble @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        Use SSD no matter what. Best investment for a desktop.

                        The last SSD I used died a horrible death 2 months ago. It was less than a year old. Many times a day it would show 100% disk usage and my PC would come to a crawl. I am guessing that I just had a lemon.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
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                          We've been essentially all in SSD for years now. Haven't lost one yet. No issues at all. They've been amazing.

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                          • alexntgA
                            alexntg @technobabble
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                            @technobabble said:

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            Use SSD no matter what. Best investment for a desktop.

                            The last SSD I used died a horrible death 2 months ago. It was less than a year old. Many times a day it would show 100% disk usage and my PC would come to a crawl. I am guessing that I just had a lemon.

                            In that case, perhaps SSD system drive in RAID1

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
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                              SSD are okay in RAID 5 too.

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                              • alexntgA
                                alexntg @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                SSD are okay in RAID 5 too.

                                RAID5 SSDs seem a bit overkill for a system drive.

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                                  technobabble
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                                  @alexntg
                                  I was also looking to make my "desktop" a VM as well running on Hyper-V. I wanted to be able to test out backing up VM's and other cool stuff I read on ML.

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                                  • alexntgA
                                    alexntg
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                                    In that case, someone's prior suggestion of a basic workstation and an ESXi host would be the way to go. Don't use Hyper-V.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @alexntg
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                                      @alexntg said:

                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      SSD are okay in RAID 5 too.

                                      RAID5 SSDs seem a bit overkill for a system drive.

                                      So does RAID 1 🙂

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @alexntg
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                                        @alexntg said:

                                        In that case, someone's prior suggestion of a basic workstation and an ESXi host would be the way to go. Don't use Hyper-V.

                                        HyperV has an option for a VM with direct access with a local console.

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          @alexntg said:

                                          In that case, someone's prior suggestion of a basic workstation and an ESXi host would be the way to go. Don't use Hyper-V.

                                          HyperV has an option for a VM with direct access with a local console.

                                          That makes it a much better solution for a small home lab than ESXi

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                                          • alexntgA
                                            alexntg @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            @alexntg said:

                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            SSD are okay in RAID 5 too.

                                            RAID5 SSDs seem a bit overkill for a system drive.

                                            So does RAID 1 🙂

                                            The OP expressed concern about their SSD failing. RAID1 would alleviate that. I don't see the justification of the third drive's cost.

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