Guy on voat looked at the Windows 10 telemetry traffic
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He posted an update:
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I'm wondering many of those are additional attempts after the first was blocked.
If he allowed connections with no blocks, that list could be significantly smaller.
Does anyone believe that Apple is doing any less?
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I wonder if it's because it's possibly a trial? Does that affect how they track data? I'm assuming it's a trial because I can't imagine paying for Windows Enterprise just to test this.
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Right, he is blocking everything and I assume the machine is not even licensed. There are a ton of not real world issues with this.
He also never stated (have not read the update) if he confirmed in Windows if the settings were still disabled. Yes, he said off during install. But, did he confirm that they are off in settings of the running instance?
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@JaredBusch said:
He also never stated (have not read the update) if he confirmed in Windows if the settings were still disabled. Yes, he said off during install. But, did he confirm that they are off in settings of the running instance?
I hear what you are saying here - but that's not really a fair ask in my mind. The reason I feel this way is because what home user would ever go back and check after setting them during setup?
It's more close to real world by not checking, and simply assuming, even if it's wrong, it's closer to reality.
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@Dashrender said:
@JaredBusch said:
He also never stated (have not read the update) if he confirmed in Windows if the settings were still disabled. Yes, he said off during install. But, did he confirm that they are off in settings of the running instance?
I hear what you are saying here - but that's not really a fair ask in my mind. The reason I feel this way is because what home user would ever go back and check after setting them during setup?
It's more close to real world by not checking, and simply assuming, even if it's wrong, it's closer to reality.
That is not relevant. He is claiming to do this to show what is happening. If you are going to claim a setting is set, then you need to show that you have verified the settings.
Yes, it is not something the general public would do. But if you are going to want to show something more than a sensationalist headline, you need to follow through on details.
You don't have to change anything, but you should note what the settings are. Yes you specified they should be off, but I have personally once seen them enabled even after I disabled them during install.
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Interesting stuff. I wonder how Spybot Anti-beacon will handle it.
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@JaredBusch Good points. Wasn't there also a windows update that reset the settings?
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@MattSpeller said:
@JaredBusch Good points. Wasn't there also a windows update that reset the settings?
1511 reset settings. As does the new update, 1800 i believe it is.
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@JaredBusch said:
@MattSpeller said:
@JaredBusch Good points. Wasn't there also a windows update that reset the settings?
1511 reset settings. As does the new update, 1800 i believe it is.
There's an 1800? when was that released?
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@Dashrender said:
@JaredBusch said:
@MattSpeller said:
@JaredBusch Good points. Wasn't there also a windows update that reset the settings?
1511 reset settings. As does the new update, 1800 i believe it is.
There's an 1800? when was that released?
the new update just announced to the insider program. I thought it was 1800. maybe i misremember the number though.
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@JaredBusch said:
@Dashrender said:
@JaredBusch said:
@MattSpeller said:
@JaredBusch Good points. Wasn't there also a windows update that reset the settings?
1511 reset settings. As does the new update, 1800 i believe it is.
There's an 1800? when was that released?
the new update just announced to the insider program. I thought it was 1800. maybe i misremember the number though.
Number's not important - OK insider program.. I'm not bothering... so it's all good.
You're probably talking about Redstone - it's been out since December.. though it's constantly rolling forward too. -
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@aaron that zdnet article is so lame even El Reg is giving them shit about it.
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@aaron said:
ZDNet is calling him out http://www.zdnet.com/article/when-it-comes-to-windows-10-privacy-dont-trust-amateur-analysts/
totally awesome.. sadly the nightly news covered the first crack pot story, but won't cover this.
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@Nic said:
@aaron that zdnet article is so lame even El Reg is giving them shit about it.
maybe it is. but the original shit was shit. that is a fact.
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also this: