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    • IT-ADMINI
      IT-ADMIN
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      really i have to learn about this point, because we have learned from the time of university one type of DB, relational DB, what are you saying is the first time i hear it, i have to take some time to contemplate about this, i will check my papers and i will resume

      to be continued ...

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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        @IT-ADMIN said:

        really i have to learn about this point, because we have learned from the time of university one type of DB, relational DB,

        I've was building NoSQL systems for the Fortune 100 in the late 1980s while still in middle school. They aren't new. But the popular use of them is pretty new for the mainstream.

        NoSQL has been a major topic this past decade. It's huge. It's the most basic consideration in data storage today. If you have heard of MongoDB, Cassandra, Redis, LocalDB (part of MS SQL Server), CouchDB, LayerDB, DynamoDB, MS Azure Tables, MS Azure DocumentDB, Freebase, InfinityDB, ElasticSearch, Amazon SimpleDB, Solr, Dynamo, Oracle NoSQL, Riak, BDB, Memchache, BigTable and hundreds of others... those are not relational.

        NoSQL is so important that MS SQL Server, PostgreSQL, DB2, Oracle and many other traditional DRBDM offer NoSQL options under the hood, too.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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          @IT-ADMIN said:

          what are you saying is the first time i hear it, i have to take some time to contemplate about this, i will check my papers and i will resume

          Several of the projects in this community this past week have been non-relational. All logging projects like ELK and Graylog use NoSQL databases, for example.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
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            And of course systems like Google were totally dependent on non-relational technology to make them plausible.

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            • IT-ADMINI
              IT-ADMIN
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              i have to admit that i'm totally ignorant about this, lol

              i'm just reading about this, from the time we were at school, we know only one thing : SQL when it comes to MDBS, we never learn or heard about this NoSQL DB, but to be honest it is shameful,

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                @IT-ADMIN said:

                i have to admit that i'm totally ignorant about this, lol

                i'm just reading about this, from the time we were at school, we know only one thing : SQL when it comes to MDBS, we never learn or heard about this NoSQL DB, but to be honest it is shameful,

                I was lucky, I skipped the college thing so had a lot more chance to learn more 🙂

                For your needs, I think that very likely MongoDB will work really well. Very easy to code against, very fast.

                I know that you want to do PHP, but check out Meteor.js.

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                • IT-ADMINI
                  IT-ADMIN
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                  really i feel that you are from another planet, lol
                  but i'm very happy that i keep learning new things everyday from you, i'm sure if you come here Scott, you will see that there is a huge difference in level, and people will not understand you, lol

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                    @IT-ADMIN said:

                    really i feel that you are from another planet, lol
                    but i'm very happy that i keep learning new things everyday from you, i'm sure if you come here Scott, you will see that there is a huge difference in level, and people will not understand you, lol

                    Are you kidding, where I am no one has a computer. The store here using a mechanical cash drawer!!

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                    • IT-ADMINI
                      IT-ADMIN
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                      come on,,,

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                      • IT-ADMINI
                        IT-ADMIN
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                        i'm just reading about MangoDB
                        http://www.tutorialspoint.com/mongodb/mongodb_overview.htm

                        do you know a good documentation about this ?? or the above link is good ??

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                          @IT-ADMIN said:

                          come on,,,

                          I am very serious.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                            @IT-ADMIN said:

                            i'm just reading about MangoDB
                            http://www.tutorialspoint.com/mongodb/mongodb_overview.htm

                            do you know a good documentation about this ?? or the above link is good ??

                            We are recording this conversation on MongoDB 🙂 If you search for MongoDB in titles in MangoLassi, you will find that I wrote up an install guide for it last week 🙂

                            MongoDB's own website is pretty decent for getting you started. However, you don't need to learn the database to use it. Many frameworks, like Meteor, use it by default and everything that you need to interact with it is built in. So you can focus on programming, instead of on designing databases.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
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                              One thing that is interesting about MongoDB is that it is built with an JavaScript interface and its native language is JSON.

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                              • IT-ADMINI
                                IT-ADMIN
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                                sometimes i say how people like you have time to even discuss in this forum, he could be hired by big companies like google or apple, and not wasting his time with people like me

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                                  @IT-ADMIN said:

                                  sometimes i say how people like you have time to even discuss in this forum, he could be hired by big companies like google or apple, and not wasting his time with people like me

                                  Google has an NDA on interview processes, they can't even get me to talk to them. Apple has tried, nice people, but they don't pay enough for the kind of work and location (they pushed for me in Cupertino, they wouldn't let me work from their Austin office, so their pay rate just wasn't good enough.)

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                                    dafyre @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    @IT-ADMIN said:

                                    i'm just reading about MangoDB
                                    http://www.tutorialspoint.com/mongodb/mongodb_overview.htm

                                    do you know a good documentation about this ?? or the above link is good ??

                                    We are recording this conversation on MongoDB 🙂 If you search for MongoDB in titles in MangoLassi, you will find that I wrote up an install guide for it last week 🙂

                                    MongoDB's own website is pretty decent for getting you started. However, you don't need to learn the database to use it. Many frameworks, like Meteor, use it by default and everything that you need to interact with it is built in. So you can focus on programming, instead of on designing databases.

                                    In the event that you do try Meteor.js and your colleague doesn't like it, there is a PHP library for MongoDB as well.

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                                    • IT-ADMINI
                                      IT-ADMIN
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                                      Ok, is it possible to use MongoDB if we have a relation many to many in our data model ?? i know it is possible but is it that simple as RDBMS ???

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                                        @IT-ADMIN said:

                                        Ok, is it possible to use MongoDB if we have a relation many to many in our data model ?? i know it is possible but is it that simple as RDBMS ???

                                        This question doesn't even make sense. 🙂 You not be using your model, of course. The model that you have made exists solely to service a system you shouldn't be using. Just skip it.

                                        No, it is far SIMPLER. Everything you have done already is unnecessary. not that it is all bad, it is good to know the data. But you are overthinking this. NoSQL makes this far easier in your case (and nearly all cases.) You are mired in the complexities of relational databases, you need to think more simply and more easily.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @dafyre
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                                          @dafyre said:

                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          @IT-ADMIN said:

                                          i'm just reading about MangoDB
                                          http://www.tutorialspoint.com/mongodb/mongodb_overview.htm

                                          do you know a good documentation about this ?? or the above link is good ??

                                          We are recording this conversation on MongoDB 🙂 If you search for MongoDB in titles in MangoLassi, you will find that I wrote up an install guide for it last week 🙂

                                          MongoDB's own website is pretty decent for getting you started. However, you don't need to learn the database to use it. Many frameworks, like Meteor, use it by default and everything that you need to interact with it is built in. So you can focus on programming, instead of on designing databases.

                                          In the event that you do try Meteor.js and your colleague doesn't like it, there is a PHP library for MongoDB as well.

                                          But you will likely make everything harder. It's hard to get easier than Meteor.

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                                          • IT-ADMINI
                                            IT-ADMIN
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                                            is mongoDB opensource, right??

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