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      the project is under construction, the entities will be added to this model by the time

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        Look at the post that you just wrote. The post is associated with you, right? The post and you have a relationship. Yet MangoLassi has no relational database. So clearly relationships in data are not lost by not using a relational database. You don't choose a relational database model because your data has relationships. Remember most systems should not be relational, but all data has relationships.

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          scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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          @IT-ADMIN said:

          the project is under construction, the entities will be added to this model by the time

          But just like the passport, you would just add them in the user's document. Your data is really ideal for a document database.

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            really i have to learn about this point, because we have learned from the time of university one type of DB, relational DB, what are you saying is the first time i hear it, i have to take some time to contemplate about this, i will check my papers and i will resume

            to be continued ...

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              scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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              really i have to learn about this point, because we have learned from the time of university one type of DB, relational DB,

              I've was building NoSQL systems for the Fortune 100 in the late 1980s while still in middle school. They aren't new. But the popular use of them is pretty new for the mainstream.

              NoSQL has been a major topic this past decade. It's huge. It's the most basic consideration in data storage today. If you have heard of MongoDB, Cassandra, Redis, LocalDB (part of MS SQL Server), CouchDB, LayerDB, DynamoDB, MS Azure Tables, MS Azure DocumentDB, Freebase, InfinityDB, ElasticSearch, Amazon SimpleDB, Solr, Dynamo, Oracle NoSQL, Riak, BDB, Memchache, BigTable and hundreds of others... those are not relational.

              NoSQL is so important that MS SQL Server, PostgreSQL, DB2, Oracle and many other traditional DRBDM offer NoSQL options under the hood, too.

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                scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                @IT-ADMIN said:

                what are you saying is the first time i hear it, i have to take some time to contemplate about this, i will check my papers and i will resume

                Several of the projects in this community this past week have been non-relational. All logging projects like ELK and Graylog use NoSQL databases, for example.

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                  scottalanmiller
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                  And of course systems like Google were totally dependent on non-relational technology to make them plausible.

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                    i have to admit that i'm totally ignorant about this, lol

                    i'm just reading about this, from the time we were at school, we know only one thing : SQL when it comes to MDBS, we never learn or heard about this NoSQL DB, but to be honest it is shameful,

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                      scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                      @IT-ADMIN said:

                      i have to admit that i'm totally ignorant about this, lol

                      i'm just reading about this, from the time we were at school, we know only one thing : SQL when it comes to MDBS, we never learn or heard about this NoSQL DB, but to be honest it is shameful,

                      I was lucky, I skipped the college thing so had a lot more chance to learn more 🙂

                      For your needs, I think that very likely MongoDB will work really well. Very easy to code against, very fast.

                      I know that you want to do PHP, but check out Meteor.js.

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                        really i feel that you are from another planet, lol
                        but i'm very happy that i keep learning new things everyday from you, i'm sure if you come here Scott, you will see that there is a huge difference in level, and people will not understand you, lol

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                          @IT-ADMIN said:

                          really i feel that you are from another planet, lol
                          but i'm very happy that i keep learning new things everyday from you, i'm sure if you come here Scott, you will see that there is a huge difference in level, and people will not understand you, lol

                          Are you kidding, where I am no one has a computer. The store here using a mechanical cash drawer!!

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                            come on,,,

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                              i'm just reading about MangoDB
                              http://www.tutorialspoint.com/mongodb/mongodb_overview.htm

                              do you know a good documentation about this ?? or the above link is good ??

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                                scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                                @IT-ADMIN said:

                                come on,,,

                                I am very serious.

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                                  @IT-ADMIN said:

                                  i'm just reading about MangoDB
                                  http://www.tutorialspoint.com/mongodb/mongodb_overview.htm

                                  do you know a good documentation about this ?? or the above link is good ??

                                  We are recording this conversation on MongoDB 🙂 If you search for MongoDB in titles in MangoLassi, you will find that I wrote up an install guide for it last week 🙂

                                  MongoDB's own website is pretty decent for getting you started. However, you don't need to learn the database to use it. Many frameworks, like Meteor, use it by default and everything that you need to interact with it is built in. So you can focus on programming, instead of on designing databases.

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                                    One thing that is interesting about MongoDB is that it is built with an JavaScript interface and its native language is JSON.

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                                      sometimes i say how people like you have time to even discuss in this forum, he could be hired by big companies like google or apple, and not wasting his time with people like me

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                                        sometimes i say how people like you have time to even discuss in this forum, he could be hired by big companies like google or apple, and not wasting his time with people like me

                                        Google has an NDA on interview processes, they can't even get me to talk to them. Apple has tried, nice people, but they don't pay enough for the kind of work and location (they pushed for me in Cupertino, they wouldn't let me work from their Austin office, so their pay rate just wasn't good enough.)

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                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          @IT-ADMIN said:

                                          i'm just reading about MangoDB
                                          http://www.tutorialspoint.com/mongodb/mongodb_overview.htm

                                          do you know a good documentation about this ?? or the above link is good ??

                                          We are recording this conversation on MongoDB 🙂 If you search for MongoDB in titles in MangoLassi, you will find that I wrote up an install guide for it last week 🙂

                                          MongoDB's own website is pretty decent for getting you started. However, you don't need to learn the database to use it. Many frameworks, like Meteor, use it by default and everything that you need to interact with it is built in. So you can focus on programming, instead of on designing databases.

                                          In the event that you do try Meteor.js and your colleague doesn't like it, there is a PHP library for MongoDB as well.

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                                            Ok, is it possible to use MongoDB if we have a relation many to many in our data model ?? i know it is possible but is it that simple as RDBMS ???

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