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    • dafyreD
      dafyre
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      I've got my own little fan club now, though. I took pictures of what I had for lunch and showed it around to everybody. Now I'm being followed by a policeman, a hot nurse, and two guys in white suits that are carrying handcuffs and straight jackets.

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender @dafyre
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        @dafyre said:

        Well now you know where all the cool people hang out -- at Duff's Bar. they have live music and beer.

        Sure, but if not for the interwebs, I would have never known 😉

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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          @Dashrender said:

          ROFLOL - Sure you can keep your paper based, telephoney based social media - but I'm sure that's not what they were talking about.

          Who knows what they were asking about. They mentioned keeping one and losing the other. They don't make sense to ask separately.

          If we assume social media means Internet too, do we assume that they mean landlines over VoIP too?

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          • quicky2gQ
            quicky2g @dafyre
            last edited by quicky2g

            @dafyre said:

            I've got my own little fan club now, though. I took pictures of what I had for lunch and showed it around to everybody. Now I'm being followed by a policeman, a hot nurse, and two guys in white suits that are carrying handcuffs and straight jackets.

            Lolololol....but we all want to know more about the hot nurse 😉

            Tell the guys in white suits to give her the handcuffs.

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender @scottalanmiller
              last edited by

              @scottalanmiller said:

              They mentioned keeping one and losing the other. They don't make sense to ask separately.

              They do?

              I just see a bullet list of questions. I'll agree that the questions are just weird, How difficult would it be to give up Social Media ? Assuming only internet based social media - I would have to ask, why would I have to give it up? Am I giving it up because I'm losing all of the internet, then that would be very hard, but giving up FB because it closed, nope not hard because there are many other ways I can continue to communicate with my friends (granted, just probably not as easily).

              LandLine - as to your questions about VOIP or copper - I'm assuming it means the use of a traditional telephone in the home, which would include VOIP if that's tied into your typical home phone. But again, these are crazy questions that need more information before you gather any meaningful information from the data.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                last edited by

                @Dashrender said:

                @scottalanmiller said:

                They mentioned keeping one and losing the other. They don't make sense to ask separately.

                They do?

                Are you saying that asking if losing the Internet includes phones? Or that losing email is because they lost the Internet?

                And where did they find people with consistent ideas as to what they were answering? Most people will think that Facebook messaging is a form of email and that email is a form of social media. Maybe they are. So how does one answer?

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                  last edited by

                  @Dashrender said:

                  LandLine - as to your questions about VOIP or copper - I'm assuming it means the use of a traditional telephone in the home, which would include VOIP if that's tied into your typical home phone. But again, these are crazy questions that need more information before you gather any meaningful information from the data.

                  Yeah, but landline doesn't MEAN that. If you have a landline over VoIP, would you even know? To a normal user, a landline is a phone to their house rather than their cell phone. Maybe to IT people we would just to the POTS conclusion, but that is not what the question asks nor what non-technical people would even be able to determine.

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                  • quicky2gQ
                    quicky2g @scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    @Dashrender said:

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    They mentioned keeping one and losing the other. They don't make sense to ask separately.

                    They do?

                    Are you saying that asking if losing the Internet includes phones? Or that losing email is because they lost the Internet?

                    And where did they find people with consistent ideas as to what they were answering? Most people will think that Facebook messaging is a form of email and that email is a form of social media. Maybe they are. So how does one answer?

                    I always wonder where they find these people too. Can't remember a time when I was ever asked for input on major survey results that come out on the internet or news. Is there like 100 people that just sit in a room all day and answer surveys???

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                      marcinozga @quicky2g
                      last edited by

                      @quicky2g said:

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      @Dashrender said:

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      They mentioned keeping one and losing the other. They don't make sense to ask separately.

                      They do?

                      Are you saying that asking if losing the Internet includes phones? Or that losing email is because they lost the Internet?

                      And where did they find people with consistent ideas as to what they were answering? Most people will think that Facebook messaging is a form of email and that email is a form of social media. Maybe they are. So how does one answer?

                      I always wonder where they find these people too. Can't remember a time when I was ever asked for input on major survey results that come out on the internet or news. Is there like 100 people that just sit in a room all day and answer surveys???

                      Registered voters lists perhaps.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        Most people will think that Facebook messaging is a form of email and that email is a form of social media.

                        They do?

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          @Dashrender said:

                          LandLine - as to your questions about VOIP or copper - I'm assuming it means the use of a traditional telephone in the home, which would include VOIP if that's tied into your typical home phone. But again, these are crazy questions that need more information before you gather any meaningful information from the data.

                          Yeah, but landline doesn't MEAN that. If you have a landline over VoIP, would you even know? To a normal user, a landline is a phone to their house rather than their cell phone. Maybe to IT people we would just to the POTS conclusion, but that is not what the question asks nor what non-technical people would even be able to determine.

                          You're right to a non-technical person Laneline means your normal home phone. I know I am using VOIP, because Cox home telephone service is VOIP converted to copper in the home.

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                          • coliverC
                            coliver @quicky2g
                            last edited by

                            @quicky2g said:

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            @Dashrender said:

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            They mentioned keeping one and losing the other. They don't make sense to ask separately.

                            They do?

                            Are you saying that asking if losing the Internet includes phones? Or that losing email is because they lost the Internet?

                            And where did they find people with consistent ideas as to what they were answering? Most people will think that Facebook messaging is a form of email and that email is a form of social media. Maybe they are. So how does one answer?

                            I always wonder where they find these people too. Can't remember a time when I was ever asked for input on major survey results that come out on the internet or news. Is there like 100 people that just sit in a room all day and answer surveys???

                            Pretty much... there are services where you literally get paid for sitting and answering surveys... a buddy got his drinking money in college doing that.

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                            • quicky2gQ
                              quicky2g @scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              Why are the lengths of the bars different? There was nothing to indicate what the length indicated. Seems fishy.

                              Think I just figured it out. If you read the small print they had 1,006 adults in the survey but not all of them matched each category so the pool of answers was less for some.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @quicky2g
                                last edited by

                                @quicky2g said:

                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                @Dashrender said:

                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                They mentioned keeping one and losing the other. They don't make sense to ask separately.

                                They do?

                                Are you saying that asking if losing the Internet includes phones? Or that losing email is because they lost the Internet?

                                And where did they find people with consistent ideas as to what they were answering? Most people will think that Facebook messaging is a form of email and that email is a form of social media. Maybe they are. So how does one answer?

                                I always wonder where they find these people too. Can't remember a time when I was ever asked for input on major survey results that come out on the internet or news. Is there like 100 people that just sit in a room all day and answer surveys???

                                It's all like random unemployed people.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @quicky2g
                                  last edited by

                                  @quicky2g said:

                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  Why are the lengths of the bars different? There was nothing to indicate what the length indicated. Seems fishy.

                                  Think I just figured it out. If you read the small print they had 1,006 adults in the survey but not all of them matched each category so the pool of answers was less for some.

                                  Maybe.... but that would make for a very misleading chart. Of course, that was the idea.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                    last edited by

                                    @Dashrender said:

                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    @Dashrender said:

                                    LandLine - as to your questions about VOIP or copper - I'm assuming it means the use of a traditional telephone in the home, which would include VOIP if that's tied into your typical home phone. But again, these are crazy questions that need more information before you gather any meaningful information from the data.

                                    Yeah, but landline doesn't MEAN that. If you have a landline over VoIP, would you even know? To a normal user, a landline is a phone to their house rather than their cell phone. Maybe to IT people we would just to the POTS conclusion, but that is not what the question asks nor what non-technical people would even be able to determine.

                                    You're right to a non-technical person Laneline means your normal home phone. I know I am using VOIP, because Cox home telephone service is VOIP converted to copper in the home.

                                    These days, tons of people are on VoIP and have no idea. Maybe half!

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      @Dashrender said:

                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      @Dashrender said:

                                      LandLine - as to your questions about VOIP or copper - I'm assuming it means the use of a traditional telephone in the home, which would include VOIP if that's tied into your typical home phone. But again, these are crazy questions that need more information before you gather any meaningful information from the data.

                                      Yeah, but landline doesn't MEAN that. If you have a landline over VoIP, would you even know? To a normal user, a landline is a phone to their house rather than their cell phone. Maybe to IT people we would just to the POTS conclusion, but that is not what the question asks nor what non-technical people would even be able to determine.

                                      You're right to a non-technical person Laneline means your normal home phone. I know I am using VOIP, because Cox home telephone service is VOIP converted to copper in the home.

                                      These days, tons of people are on VoIP and have no idea. Maybe half!

                                      It totally makes since, why manage two separate networks if you don't absolutely need to.

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                                      • quicky2gQ
                                        quicky2g @Dashrender
                                        last edited by

                                        @Dashrender said:

                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        @Dashrender said:

                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        @Dashrender said:

                                        LandLine - as to your questions about VOIP or copper - I'm assuming it means the use of a traditional telephone in the home, which would include VOIP if that's tied into your typical home phone. But again, these are crazy questions that need more information before you gather any meaningful information from the data.

                                        Yeah, but landline doesn't MEAN that. If you have a landline over VoIP, would you even know? To a normal user, a landline is a phone to their house rather than their cell phone. Maybe to IT people we would just to the POTS conclusion, but that is not what the question asks nor what non-technical people would even be able to determine.

                                        You're right to a non-technical person Laneline means your normal home phone. I know I am using VOIP, because Cox home telephone service is VOIP converted to copper in the home.

                                        These days, tons of people are on VoIP and have no idea. Maybe half!

                                        It totally makes since, why manage two separate networks if you don't absolutely need to.

                                        I think some of these old school voice guys still want a security blanket where they don't have to think about a data network. Guess I can understand to a degree but you have to keep evolving to stay relevant.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @quicky2g
                                          last edited by

                                          @quicky2g said:

                                          @Dashrender said:

                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          @Dashrender said:

                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          @Dashrender said:

                                          LandLine - as to your questions about VOIP or copper - I'm assuming it means the use of a traditional telephone in the home, which would include VOIP if that's tied into your typical home phone. But again, these are crazy questions that need more information before you gather any meaningful information from the data.

                                          Yeah, but landline doesn't MEAN that. If you have a landline over VoIP, would you even know? To a normal user, a landline is a phone to their house rather than their cell phone. Maybe to IT people we would just to the POTS conclusion, but that is not what the question asks nor what non-technical people would even be able to determine.

                                          You're right to a non-technical person Laneline means your normal home phone. I know I am using VOIP, because Cox home telephone service is VOIP converted to copper in the home.

                                          These days, tons of people are on VoIP and have no idea. Maybe half!

                                          It totally makes since, why manage two separate networks if you don't absolutely need to.

                                          I think some of these old school voice guys still want a security blanket where they don't have to think about a data network. Guess I can understand to a degree but you have to keep evolving to stay relevant.

                                          More of a "they want a job since they aren't IT guys."

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