Dependence on Technology
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
What does "giving up the Internet" mean if you separate out email and social media?
That's a great question - While I might say you could have email without the internet (yeah I know, not really, but still) but you can't give up the internet and keep social media - that would have to go too.
I think IF you can give up Internet but keep email, then you can give it up and keep social media too.
In fact, I think your logic is backwards. Email is defined by SMTP, which requires TCP/IP to work. Social media is a general concept and does not require the Internet or even computers.
Old school social media...flyer on a pole that says "Come hang out at Duff's Bar. We have live music and beer"
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And bulletin boards. Personal ads in the paper.
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ROFLOL - Sure you can keep your paper based, telephoney based social media - but I'm sure that's not what they were talking about.
I'm sure they were talking about Twitter and Facebook. and I say if you're using Twitter and Facebook, you're on the internet.
(damn that really made me almost fall out of my chair laughing.... using old paper based social media.. LOL! Good thing I wasn't drinking anything)
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@Dashrender said:
ROFLOL - Sure you can keep your paper based, telephoney based social media - but I'm sure that's not what they were talking about.
I'm sure they were talking about Twitter and Facebook. and I say if you're using Twitter and Facebook, you're on the internet.
(damn that really made me almost fall out of my chair laughing.... using old paper based social media.. LOL! Good thing I wasn't drinking anything)
Well now you know where all the cool people hang out -- at Duff's Bar. they have live music and beer.
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I've got my own little fan club now, though. I took pictures of what I had for lunch and showed it around to everybody. Now I'm being followed by a policeman, a hot nurse, and two guys in white suits that are carrying handcuffs and straight jackets.
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@dafyre said:
Well now you know where all the cool people hang out -- at Duff's Bar. they have live music and beer.
Sure, but if not for the interwebs, I would have never known
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@Dashrender said:
ROFLOL - Sure you can keep your paper based, telephoney based social media - but I'm sure that's not what they were talking about.
Who knows what they were asking about. They mentioned keeping one and losing the other. They don't make sense to ask separately.
If we assume social media means Internet too, do we assume that they mean landlines over VoIP too?
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@dafyre said:
I've got my own little fan club now, though. I took pictures of what I had for lunch and showed it around to everybody. Now I'm being followed by a policeman, a hot nurse, and two guys in white suits that are carrying handcuffs and straight jackets.
Lolololol....but we all want to know more about the hot nurse
Tell the guys in white suits to give her the handcuffs.
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@scottalanmiller said:
They mentioned keeping one and losing the other. They don't make sense to ask separately.
They do?
I just see a bullet list of questions. I'll agree that the questions are just weird, How difficult would it be to give up Social Media ? Assuming only internet based social media - I would have to ask, why would I have to give it up? Am I giving it up because I'm losing all of the internet, then that would be very hard, but giving up FB because it closed, nope not hard because there are many other ways I can continue to communicate with my friends (granted, just probably not as easily).
LandLine - as to your questions about VOIP or copper - I'm assuming it means the use of a traditional telephone in the home, which would include VOIP if that's tied into your typical home phone. But again, these are crazy questions that need more information before you gather any meaningful information from the data.
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@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
They mentioned keeping one and losing the other. They don't make sense to ask separately.
They do?
Are you saying that asking if losing the Internet includes phones? Or that losing email is because they lost the Internet?
And where did they find people with consistent ideas as to what they were answering? Most people will think that Facebook messaging is a form of email and that email is a form of social media. Maybe they are. So how does one answer?
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@Dashrender said:
LandLine - as to your questions about VOIP or copper - I'm assuming it means the use of a traditional telephone in the home, which would include VOIP if that's tied into your typical home phone. But again, these are crazy questions that need more information before you gather any meaningful information from the data.
Yeah, but landline doesn't MEAN that. If you have a landline over VoIP, would you even know? To a normal user, a landline is a phone to their house rather than their cell phone. Maybe to IT people we would just to the POTS conclusion, but that is not what the question asks nor what non-technical people would even be able to determine.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
They mentioned keeping one and losing the other. They don't make sense to ask separately.
They do?
Are you saying that asking if losing the Internet includes phones? Or that losing email is because they lost the Internet?
And where did they find people with consistent ideas as to what they were answering? Most people will think that Facebook messaging is a form of email and that email is a form of social media. Maybe they are. So how does one answer?
I always wonder where they find these people too. Can't remember a time when I was ever asked for input on major survey results that come out on the internet or news. Is there like 100 people that just sit in a room all day and answer surveys???
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@quicky2g said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
They mentioned keeping one and losing the other. They don't make sense to ask separately.
They do?
Are you saying that asking if losing the Internet includes phones? Or that losing email is because they lost the Internet?
And where did they find people with consistent ideas as to what they were answering? Most people will think that Facebook messaging is a form of email and that email is a form of social media. Maybe they are. So how does one answer?
I always wonder where they find these people too. Can't remember a time when I was ever asked for input on major survey results that come out on the internet or news. Is there like 100 people that just sit in a room all day and answer surveys???
Registered voters lists perhaps.
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@scottalanmiller said:
Most people will think that Facebook messaging is a form of email and that email is a form of social media.
They do?
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
LandLine - as to your questions about VOIP or copper - I'm assuming it means the use of a traditional telephone in the home, which would include VOIP if that's tied into your typical home phone. But again, these are crazy questions that need more information before you gather any meaningful information from the data.
Yeah, but landline doesn't MEAN that. If you have a landline over VoIP, would you even know? To a normal user, a landline is a phone to their house rather than their cell phone. Maybe to IT people we would just to the POTS conclusion, but that is not what the question asks nor what non-technical people would even be able to determine.
You're right to a non-technical person Laneline means your normal home phone. I know I am using VOIP, because Cox home telephone service is VOIP converted to copper in the home.
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@quicky2g said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
They mentioned keeping one and losing the other. They don't make sense to ask separately.
They do?
Are you saying that asking if losing the Internet includes phones? Or that losing email is because they lost the Internet?
And where did they find people with consistent ideas as to what they were answering? Most people will think that Facebook messaging is a form of email and that email is a form of social media. Maybe they are. So how does one answer?
I always wonder where they find these people too. Can't remember a time when I was ever asked for input on major survey results that come out on the internet or news. Is there like 100 people that just sit in a room all day and answer surveys???
Pretty much... there are services where you literally get paid for sitting and answering surveys... a buddy got his drinking money in college doing that.
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@scottalanmiller said:
Why are the lengths of the bars different? There was nothing to indicate what the length indicated. Seems fishy.
Think I just figured it out. If you read the small print they had 1,006 adults in the survey but not all of them matched each category so the pool of answers was less for some.
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@quicky2g said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
They mentioned keeping one and losing the other. They don't make sense to ask separately.
They do?
Are you saying that asking if losing the Internet includes phones? Or that losing email is because they lost the Internet?
And where did they find people with consistent ideas as to what they were answering? Most people will think that Facebook messaging is a form of email and that email is a form of social media. Maybe they are. So how does one answer?
I always wonder where they find these people too. Can't remember a time when I was ever asked for input on major survey results that come out on the internet or news. Is there like 100 people that just sit in a room all day and answer surveys???
It's all like random unemployed people.
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@quicky2g said:
@scottalanmiller said:
Why are the lengths of the bars different? There was nothing to indicate what the length indicated. Seems fishy.
Think I just figured it out. If you read the small print they had 1,006 adults in the survey but not all of them matched each category so the pool of answers was less for some.
Maybe.... but that would make for a very misleading chart. Of course, that was the idea.
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@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
LandLine - as to your questions about VOIP or copper - I'm assuming it means the use of a traditional telephone in the home, which would include VOIP if that's tied into your typical home phone. But again, these are crazy questions that need more information before you gather any meaningful information from the data.
Yeah, but landline doesn't MEAN that. If you have a landline over VoIP, would you even know? To a normal user, a landline is a phone to their house rather than their cell phone. Maybe to IT people we would just to the POTS conclusion, but that is not what the question asks nor what non-technical people would even be able to determine.
You're right to a non-technical person Laneline means your normal home phone. I know I am using VOIP, because Cox home telephone service is VOIP converted to copper in the home.
These days, tons of people are on VoIP and have no idea. Maybe half!
