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    Offline virus scanner - what do you use?

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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender
      last edited by Dashrender

      The title says it all - What do you use for an Offline scanner?

      My current situation -

      Spiceworks is telling me that two of my machines are talking to suspicious IPs. i'd like to scan the machines to make sure nothing has snuck by the AV.

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      • NicN
        Nic
        last edited by

        What's the use case for scanning offline? Isn't that like asking what brand of condom you like wearing when you aren't having sex? 🙂

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender
          last edited by Dashrender

          LOL nice one @Nic

          No virus scanner is fool proof. If a rootkit manages to get in (or even a non root kit) and get under the AV, the AV is no longer effective. Scanning offline though, assuming the scanner knows about whatever bug might be there, should be able to see it and then you decide how to proceed.

          Edit - mentioning a rootkit is, as scott would say, a red herring - please ignore that.

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          • dafyreD
            dafyre
            last edited by

            If Windows will boot, I'd recommend Webroot or Malwarebytes. If Windows won't boot, I'd jump to a Linux Live CD + ClamAV

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            • coliverC
              coliver @Dashrender
              last edited by

              @Dashrender said:

              LOL nice one @Nic

              No virus scanner is fool proof. If a rootkit manages to get in (or even a non root kit) and get under the AV, the AV is no longer effective. Scanning offline though, assuming the scanner knows about whatever bug might be there, should be able to see it and then you decide how to proceed.

              Nuke it from orbit. If a rootkit gets below the AV that's the only way to be sure nothing else is hiding in there.

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              • NicN
                Nic
                last edited by

                Makes sense - yeah I'd second the MBAM recommendation in that case. Although if you have a rootkit then you're going to have to boot from some other media to be sure.

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender
                  last edited by

                  Booting from a CD is the plan - that's why it's an offline scan.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @coliver
                    last edited by

                    @coliver said:

                    @Dashrender said:

                    LOL nice one @Nic

                    No virus scanner is fool proof. If a rootkit manages to get in (or even a non root kit) and get under the AV, the AV is no longer effective. Scanning offline though, assuming the scanner knows about whatever bug might be there, should be able to see it and then you decide how to proceed.

                    Nuke it from orbit. If a rootkit gets below the AV that's the only way to be sure nothing else is hiding in there.

                    Agreed, I would nuke a machine I thought even had a chance at a rootkit.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender
                      last edited by

                      See updated OP.

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                      • coliverC
                        coliver
                        last edited by

                        Have you checked the IP's they are talking to? When I was running SW it did the same thing and generally they were legitimate IPs that had been flagged by a third party for malicious adware.

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                        • travisdh1T
                          travisdh1
                          last edited by

                          You mean nobody has a PXE boot to scanner option setup? What are we coming to? Actually, I'm guessing by the time we're considering an off-line scan it's past time to nuke-it-from-orbit.

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                          • NicN
                            Nic
                            last edited by

                            There's a bunch of good recovery CD options out there. Plus it looks like MBAM has a rootkit scanner now:

                            http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/smb-technologist/two-portable-rootkit-tools-no-smb-should-be-without/
                            https://www.malwarebytes.org/antirootkit/
                            http://www.techsupportalert.com/best-free-rootkit-scanner-remover.htm

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender @coliver
                              last edited by

                              @coliver said:

                              Have you checked the IP's they are talking to? When I was running SW it did the same thing and generally they were legitimate IPs that had been flagged by a third party for malicious adware.

                              Yeah, I'm guessing this is probably the situation, but I figure it's better to be safe than sorry and run an outside of norm scan on them.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @Nic
                                last edited by

                                @Nic said:

                                What's the use case for scanning offline? Isn't that like asking what brand of condom you like wearing when you aren't having sex? 🙂

                                Quote of the Day right there.

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender
                                  last edited by

                                  So what's your thought on the issue Scott? Should I not even bother? If my running AV seems clean, just move on?

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    I agree with MBAM as a good secondary scanner. I use that as a "backup" to Webroot. By offline, do you mean booting into a Linux LiveCD and scanning when the Windows kernel is not loaded? If so, yes, that's a good way to go if you are concerned and ClamAV should be fine for that.

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender
                                      last edited by

                                      OK wow, no love for Defender offline here.

                                      I guess I'll have to get a live CD with Clam AV on it.

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                                      • dafyreD
                                        dafyre @Dashrender
                                        last edited by

                                        @Dashrender said:

                                        OK wow, no love for Defender offline here.

                                        I guess I'll have to get a live CD with Clam AV on it.

                                        You mean BitDefender?

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender @dafyre
                                          last edited by

                                          @dafyre said:

                                          @Dashrender said:

                                          OK wow, no love for Defender offline here.

                                          I guess I'll have to get a live CD with Clam AV on it.

                                          You mean BitDefender?

                                          No, MS Defender offline.

                                          windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/what-is-windows-defender-offline

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                                          • dafyreD
                                            dafyre @Dashrender
                                            last edited by

                                            @Dashrender Never heard of it.... runs off to read

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