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    Needing a bit of a rant, thanks Microsoft!

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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender
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      WTF? is your machine not a Domain Joined machine?

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
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        My Windows 10 experience is that the Start Button and the Task Manager routinely do not work. I'm currently power cycling easily six to ten times a day because the Task Manager loses the ability to get control of the desktop and cannot show itself in order to kill things.

        The degree to which Windows 10 lags behind late 1990s Linux desktops in stability is crazy. I've yet to have a Linux desktop lose control so dramatically that you can't get to a command line and kill the process causing the issue. In Windows 10, I expect in several times a day!

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @travisdh1
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          @travisdh1 said:

          At least the internet thing was an easy fix that I was expecting. A hard drive got replaced in the server yesterday,.....

          Windows Software RAID then?

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender
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            Scott - are you on an upgrade or a clean install?

            If a clean install, do I assume correctly that you have the 1511 update? (Which is more like an upgrade than and update).

            I just installed my first pure 1511 last night as a base for my new images. Not sure how it's going to go yet.

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            • travisdh1T
              travisdh1 @Dashrender
              last edited by

              @Dashrender said:

              WTF? is your machine not a Domain Joined machine?

              It's one of only 2 Windows computers left here. Only 10 computers total means things are manageable, but I still want to get them setup on a proper domain and file server.

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                Jason Banned @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said:

                My Windows 10 experience is that the Start Button and the Task Manager routinely do not work. I'm currently power cycling easily six to ten times a day because the Task Manager loses the ability to get control of the desktop and cannot show itself in order to kill things.

                The search part of the start button breaks often.

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                • Minion QueenM
                  Minion Queen Banned @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  My Windows 10 experience is that the Start Button and the Task Manager routinely do not work. I'm currently power cycling easily six to ten times a day because the Task Manager loses the ability to get control of the desktop and cannot show itself in order to kill things.

                  The degree to which Windows 10 lags behind late 1990s Linux desktops in stability is crazy. I've yet to have a Linux desktop lose control so dramatically that you can't get to a command line and kill the process causing the issue. In Windows 10, I expect in several times a day!

                  Really? We aren't having any of those issues around here. I have been on Windows 10 for months now and since going live I haven't had those issues.

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                  • travisdh1T
                    travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    @travisdh1 said:

                    At least the internet thing was an easy fix that I was expecting. A hard drive got replaced in the server yesterday,.....

                    Windows Software RAID then?

                    That was the server, not my workstation. So yes, software raid, but Linux style mdadm/LVM. Getting firewall rules to prevent the local box from communicating on the WAN interface was one of those fun learning experiences. Now it'd take me minutes instead of an hour.

                    It was very annoying having to go through all that "Microsoft will collect all the data" settings before being able to hit putty and get the raid fixed.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                      @Dashrender said:

                      Scott - are you on an upgrade or a clean install?

                      Clean

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                        last edited by

                        @Dashrender said:

                        If a clean install, do I assume correctly that you have the 1511 update?
                        Yup

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @travisdh1
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                          @travisdh1 said:

                          That was the server, not my workstation. So yes, software raid, but Linux style mdadm/LVM.

                          XenServer?

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                          • travisdh1T
                            travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            @travisdh1 said:

                            That was the server, not my workstation. So yes, software raid, but Linux style mdadm/LVM.

                            XenServer?

                            That one is the old ProxMox. The latest server is XenServer. The remaining proxmox box will be moved to XenServer as well. Time to actually do it is the sticking point.

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender @travisdh1
                              last edited by

                              @travisdh1 said:

                              @Dashrender said:

                              WTF? is your machine not a Domain Joined machine?

                              It's one of only 2 Windows computers left here. Only 10 computers total means things are manageable, but I still want to get them setup on a proper domain and file server.

                              OK so no domain currently - ok I feel better.

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender @travisdh1
                                last edited by

                                @travisdh1 said:

                                @Dashrender said:

                                WTF? is your machine not a Domain Joined machine?

                                It's one of only 2 Windows computers left here. Only 10 computers total means things are manageable, but I still want to get them setup on a proper domain and file server.

                                You want to setup a domain for 2 Windows computers? Using a Linux distro as a Domain controller I hope? $800+ seems like a lot to spend if you were thinking a Windows Server for just two Windows machines.

                                As for file server, what's wrong with a NAS or standing up an Owncloud box. Owncloud will be safer - less risk of Cryptolocker problems.

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                                • travisdh1T
                                  travisdh1 @Dashrender
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                                  @Dashrender said:

                                  @travisdh1 said:

                                  @Dashrender said:

                                  WTF? is your machine not a Domain Joined machine?

                                  It's one of only 2 Windows computers left here. Only 10 computers total means things are manageable, but I still want to get them setup on a proper domain and file server.

                                  You want to setup a domain for 2 Windows computers? Using a Linux distro as a Domain controller I hope? $800+ seems like a lot to spend if you were thinking a Windows Server for just two Windows machines.

                                  As for file server, what's wrong with a NAS or standing up an Owncloud box. Owncloud will be safer - less risk of Cryptolocker problems.

                                  Zentyal actually. Business wise because most of the users jump between computers all the time and it's so much easier to make file shares follow them around with an authentication server. Also for my piece of mind because I'll probably be changing jobs in the next 1-2 years and it'll be a lot easier for someone else to manage. (Most likely an MSP, but they'd need to be able to send someone in which is going to be the stumbling block.)

                                  Ever visit Amish Country? We have more IT people around than you'd think, but the market is still tiny.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @travisdh1
                                    last edited by

                                    @travisdh1 said:

                                    Ever visit Amish Country? We have more IT people around than you'd think, but the market is still tiny.

                                    Which of the Amish Counties are you in? I'm a Bucks County descendant myself.

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                                    • travisdh1T
                                      travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      @travisdh1 said:

                                      Ever visit Amish Country? We have more IT people around than you'd think, but the market is still tiny.

                                      Which of the Amish Counties are you in? I'm a Bucks County descendant myself.

                                      Wayne/Holmes Counties Ohio

                                      We've lost the largest Amish population in the US title I think.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @travisdh1
                                        last edited by

                                        @travisdh1 said:

                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        @travisdh1 said:

                                        Ever visit Amish Country? We have more IT people around than you'd think, but the market is still tiny.

                                        Which of the Amish Counties are you in? I'm a Bucks County descendant myself.

                                        Wayne/Holmes Counties Ohio

                                        We've lost the largest Amish population in the US title I think.

                                        Ah cool. My Bucks County family migrated to Stark County, Ohio. So I'm familiar there too. I'm in Canton a few time a year, typically.

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                                        • anthonyhA
                                          anthonyh @scottalanmiller
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                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          My Windows 10 experience is that the Start Button and the Task Manager routinely do not work. I'm currently power cycling easily six to ten times a day because the Task Manager loses the ability to get control of the desktop and cannot show itself in order to kill things.

                                          The degree to which Windows 10 lags behind late 1990s Linux desktops in stability is crazy. I've yet to have a Linux desktop lose control so dramatically that you can't get to a command line and kill the process causing the issue. In Windows 10, I expect in several times a day!

                                          My Win 10 experience has been pretty good up until this morning. I had remoted in and was using my Win 10 box from home last night around 10pm without any issues. I came in this morning and every app I had left open was angry (XenCenter, Adobe Reader [a one page PDF], MS SQL Management Studio, and Chrome), and Windows was complaining about being out of memory (I thought that's what the pagefile was for?).

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                                          It wasn't happy until a reboot. It kept insisting on closing Windows Explorer to free up memory. Was very interesting.

                                          We'll see if it happens again. In the moment, I didn't think to check Task Manager to see how much memory it reported was being used, and by what. Next time I'll do that...if it'll let me. The machine in question is a new Dell OptiPlex 3020 with 8 GB RAM.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller
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                                            And there is little to no chance that I'm not related to the Miller for which your county seat is named, there 😉

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