What Switches do you use?
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@johnhooks said:
@Dashrender said:
@johnhooks said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@johnhooks said:
@scottalanmiller said:
EdgeSwitch. UniFi costs more and does less.
I have been wondering why they have the unifi section for that stuff? Especially the USG. It just seems overpriced for what you get out of it. I mean, you can control it from the same interface, but there's not really anything to control.
UniFi, as the name implies, is them going after the Meraki market, rather than, say, the traditional Cisco market.
I guess I should have worded it differently. I was wondering why options are so limited on the gateway and switches. There really aren't hardly any configurations for the unifi stuff in the controller.
It would be nice to have the controller pull info in from the edge stuff.
Assuming by edge you mean the Unifi witch and the USG, I agree - give me as much centralized control as possible.
Well I meant edgerouter and edgeswitch. It would be nice if they the Unifi controller could pull info in from those, or gave you more customization in the Unifi stuff.
But that goes back to what @JaredBusch said - the Unifi gear doesn't mess with the edge gear. Two completely different product lines.
Think Meraki vs Cisco APs/switches/etc Cisco stuff doesn't manage Meraki, and Meraki doesn't manage Cisco.
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I have two new switches waiting to be installed.
One Procurve and one EdgeSwitch.
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I've changed from unmanaged switches to HP 1910s. Mostly for the price and warranty, managed switches for close to the same price of unamanged, yes please. Not really impressed with the ancient 3com management interface. I had a laugh when I spotted some 3com labels on the JG538A I got to replace the abomination that was our central network core (even with only 10 people employed at any single place it was still an abomination.)
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That few dollar difference isn't always worth it.
Scott's made mention of times where he went with unmanaged because the throughput was faster than the managed ones.
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@Dashrender said:
@johnhooks said:
@Dashrender said:
@johnhooks said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@johnhooks said:
@scottalanmiller said:
EdgeSwitch. UniFi costs more and does less.
I have been wondering why they have the unifi section for that stuff? Especially the USG. It just seems overpriced for what you get out of it. I mean, you can control it from the same interface, but there's not really anything to control.
UniFi, as the name implies, is them going after the Meraki market, rather than, say, the traditional Cisco market.
I guess I should have worded it differently. I was wondering why options are so limited on the gateway and switches. There really aren't hardly any configurations for the unifi stuff in the controller.
It would be nice to have the controller pull info in from the edge stuff.
Assuming by edge you mean the Unifi witch and the USG, I agree - give me as much centralized control as possible.
Well I meant edgerouter and edgeswitch. It would be nice if they the Unifi controller could pull info in from those, or gave you more customization in the Unifi stuff.
But that goes back to what @JaredBusch said - the Unifi gear doesn't mess with the edge gear. Two completely different product lines.
Think Meraki vs Cisco APs/switches/etc Cisco stuff doesn't manage Meraki, and Meraki doesn't manage Cisco.
Right, but you still have to have a mix of both. There aren't any edgemax based AP devices. So you still need the controller anyway. I don't necessarily want the controller to control anything. Just pull info in from the router. There is a spot on the EdgeRouter to put in a Unifi controller address but I haven't figured out what it does.
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There's also the question as to whether or not management is needed... . which will always depend on the situation.
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Maybe instead of using the controller it would be nice if the EdgeRouter could control the AP.
I think it's really nice that everything is split, it's just you still need the Unifi AP no matter what.
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@Dashrender said:
That few dollar difference isn't always worth it.
Scott's made mention of times where he went with unmanaged because the throughput was faster than the managed ones.
True. The big difference is LAG availability. I can run a backup in the middle of the day without bringing the rest of the network down because everyone's on the same 1Gbit trunk. I can see how something like a dedicated storage network would be slowed down by adding a management layer on top of switching for sure.
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@johnhooks said:
@dafyre said:
There's also the question as to whether or not management is needed... . which will always depend on the situation.
Maybe instead of using the controller it would be nice if the EdgeRouter could control the AP.
I think it's really nice that everything is split, it's just you still need the Unifi AP no matter what.
Isn't that all managed through the same software?
We'll be getting our first Ubiquity APs whenever they get in stock. May be another week or two before they ship yet. So it'll be interesting for me to know how well the AP and switch/router all work together.
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@travisdh1 said:
@johnhooks said:
@dafyre said:
There's also the question as to whether or not management is needed... . which will always depend on the situation.
Maybe instead of using the controller it would be nice if the EdgeRouter could control the AP.
I think it's really nice that everything is split, it's just you still need the Unifi AP no matter what.
Isn't that all managed through the same software?
We'll be getting our first Ubiquity APs whenever they get in stock. May be another week or two before they ship yet. So it'll be interesting for me to know how well the AP and switch/router all work together.
The Unifi line is, the EdgeMax line isn't.
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@scottalanmiller said:
No, but @art_of_shred would know. He's been standing by it lot this week.
I can't hear it over the Dell switches, if that's what you mean.
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@travisdh1 said:
@johnhooks said:
@dafyre said:
There's also the question as to whether or not management is needed... . which will always depend on the situation.
Maybe instead of using the controller it would be nice if the EdgeRouter could control the AP.
I think it's really nice that everything is split, it's just you still need the Unifi AP no matter what.
Isn't that all managed through the same software?
We'll be getting our first Ubiquity APs whenever they get in stock. May be another week or two before they ship yet. So it'll be interesting for me to know how well the AP and switch/router all work together.
Depending on your timeframe... you should see if your order is for the new AC units or the old N units.
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@johnhooks said:
@travisdh1 said:
@johnhooks said:
@dafyre said:
There's also the question as to whether or not management is needed... . which will always depend on the situation.
Maybe instead of using the controller it would be nice if the EdgeRouter could control the AP.
I think it's really nice that everything is split, it's just you still need the Unifi AP no matter what.
Isn't that all managed through the same software?
We'll be getting our first Ubiquity APs whenever they get in stock. May be another week or two before they ship yet. So it'll be interesting for me to know how well the AP and switch/router all work together.
The Unifi line is, the EdgeMax line isn't.
Nope. They are two different lines... like Meraki vs Cisco... both owned by Cisco, but different
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What stuff does the EdgeSwitch do that the Unifi Switch does not?
Edit: I understand Unifi line has the controller.
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@Dashrender said:
@johnhooks said:
@travisdh1 said:
@johnhooks said:
@dafyre said:
There's also the question as to whether or not management is needed... . which will always depend on the situation.
Maybe instead of using the controller it would be nice if the EdgeRouter could control the AP.
I think it's really nice that everything is split, it's just you still need the Unifi AP no matter what.
Isn't that all managed through the same software?
We'll be getting our first Ubiquity APs whenever they get in stock. May be another week or two before they ship yet. So it'll be interesting for me to know how well the AP and switch/router all work together.
The Unifi line is, the EdgeMax line isn't.
Nope. They are two different lines... like Meraki vs Cisco... both owned by Cisco, but different
That's what I was saying. The unifi line is managed through the same software. The edgemax line isn't.
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@brianlittlejohn said:
What stuff does the EdgeSwitch do that the Unifi Switch does not?
Edit: I understand Unifi line has the controller.
10GigE Fiber I believe.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@brianlittlejohn said:
What stuff does the EdgeSwitch do that the Unifi Switch does not?
Edit: I understand Unifi line has the controller.
10GigE Fiber I believe.
Yeah, we just got an EdgeMax because we needed 10gig SFP+.
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@art_of_shred said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@brianlittlejohn said:
What stuff does the EdgeSwitch do that the Unifi Switch does not?
Edit: I understand Unifi line has the controller.
10GigE Fiber I believe.
Yeah, we just got an EdgeMax because we needed 10gig SFP+.
The unifi switch does as well... at least in the 48 port version.
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I actually really like the Zyxel GS1920 model for a managed switch. The 24 and 48-port switches are really more than that because they have extra dedicated fiber ports. All are 1 GB here, but they make 10 GB gear as well. I'm working on using them with LAGs across our backbone.
