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    Mac Mini as OSX Server + GlobalSan iSCSI

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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @coliver
      last edited by

      @coliver said:

      Do you need it to be run by the Mac Mini? I'm pretty sure the ReadyNAS does NFS storage which Macs can mount natively with a little program or script. They run a Debian fork under the hood and have Dropbox in their app marketplace as well.

      It does but it lacks vfs_fruit so for a large scale Mac environment it is not idea, yet.

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      • brianlittlejohnB
        brianlittlejohn @ntoxicator
        last edited by

        @ntoxicator I've had Apple's OpenDirectory corrupt on me both places I've implemented it. I dont like it at all. (Granted that was about 6 years ago)

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          marcinozga @coliver
          last edited by

          @coliver said:

          Do you need it to be run by the Mac Mini? I'm pretty sure the ReadyNAS does NFS storage which Macs can mount natively with a little program or script. They run a Debian fork under the hood and have Dropbox in their app marketplace as well.

          NFS on OS X has its own quirks and is not as reliable as on other Unix systems. And you can forget about Spotlight searches without the use of OS X Server.

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender
            last edited by

            Why are you looking at a local solution instead of a cloud one? Wouldn't a cloud one work better for multi locations?

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            • ntoxicatorN
              ntoxicator
              last edited by ntoxicator

              Plan was to have a volume/disk attached to Mac Mini running the Server app. in el capitan its nice! alot of changes and merged to a single app... more rounded & polished per say.

              But all shares would be SMB (as apple moving away from AFP) and also WebDav share option
              Formatted as HFS+ ofcourse

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              • ntoxicatorN
                ntoxicator
                last edited by

                ease of use and drives auto map to login.

                These are not brighest computer users. Trying to KISS

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                • ntoxicatorN
                  ntoxicator
                  last edited by

                  Also I know the limitation on the share being formatted as HFS+

                  Compatible with Apple eco-system. but not linux or windows. due to filesystem. the plan was have the Dropbox app be on the Mac mini and re-publish the files globally. and then only certain computers would need dropbox installed if person needs access to the company files for read/write

                  all suggestions welcome for cloud solutions though!

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @marcinozga
                    last edited by

                    @marcinozga said:

                    ...OS X has its own quirks and is not as reliable as on other Unix systems.

                    FTFY

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @ntoxicator
                      last edited by

                      @ntoxicator said:

                      Also I know the limitation on the share being formatted as HFS+

                      Compatible with Apple eco-system. but not linux or windows. due to filesystem. the plan was have the Dropbox app be on the Mac mini and re-publish the files globally. and then only certain computers would need dropbox installed if person needs access to the company files for read/write

                      all suggestions welcome for cloud solutions though!

                      SMB from HFS+ will still allow sharing outside of the Mac world.

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                      • ntoxicatorN
                        ntoxicator
                        last edited by

                        Nothing is perfect for systems. Unless straight Linux server. But then have limitations or script your own and use open source projects

                        can I setup linux server for Samba shares? Absolutely. Will it work? Sure...

                        Will there be limitations.. absolutely.

                        Looking to simplify their network and not have a phone call each day.

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                        • ntoxicatorN
                          ntoxicator @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller

                          What about read/write capability though?

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                          • ntoxicatorN
                            ntoxicator
                            last edited by

                            I guess I just need to be babysat some more.. lol

                            I appreciate everyone's input here. ALOT of opinions and knowledge shared together.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @ntoxicator
                              last edited by

                              @ntoxicator said:

                              Nothing is perfect for systems. Unless straight Linux server. But then have limitations or script your own and use open source projects

                              can I setup linux server for Samba shares? Absolutely. Will it work? Sure...

                              Will there be limitations.. absolutely.

                              Looking to simplify their network and not have a phone call each day.

                              Actually, in theory, a Linux server can beat the Mac Mini server in every way. More reliable, lower cost, high performance. Other than your effort in setting it up, which might alone be easier, there is a good chance that it would beat the Mac Mini in every way.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @ntoxicator
                                last edited by

                                @ntoxicator said:

                                @scottalanmiller

                                What about read/write capability though?

                                Of what? Sorry but I lost the context on this question 🙂

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender
                                  last edited by

                                  Did I miss the answer as to why you're not going to a cloud solution?

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                    last edited by

                                    @Dashrender said:

                                    Did I miss the answer as to why you're not going to a cloud solution?

                                    Speed, I think.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      They have a cloud based one today and don't like it. Not that another wouldn't be better, but DropBox isn't bad as those things go.

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                                      • ntoxicatorN
                                        ntoxicator
                                        last edited by

                                        Right, speed is a factor here. And they're not happy with dropbox. Years ago they had a SMB windows server that did file Shares. Then they moved to dropbox (never my suggestion) and have griped since.

                                        As you know, dropbox installs locally on machine and uses disk space to locally sync the files to local machine(s). Not cool when they have over 500GB of data. Fills up drives fast.

                                        I just seen Mac OSX server to be faster & easier to "turn up" and hit ground running for OpenDirectory, SMB shares and "Group Policy" like settings.

                                        i'm all for hearing suggestive alternative solutions!

                                        But right now thought process is Mac mini + DAS (if can find one having features.. looking at drobo now)

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                                        • ntoxicatorN
                                          ntoxicator @scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by

                                          @scottalanmiller

                                          Read/write capability was in regards to the drive being HFS+ file system. Even with SMB share option checked on mac mini. This allows for read/write capability from Windows hosts?

                                          I thought would be able to write to the drive from Windows because being HFS+.. or is that ONLY if the HFS+ formatted drive was directly connected to a Windows/linux machine?

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                                          • brianlittlejohnB
                                            brianlittlejohn @ntoxicator
                                            last edited by brianlittlejohn

                                            @ntoxicator It can write to the drive over SMB. Windows doesn't natively have the driver to write/read hfs+ so it cant access the file system directly attached. Going over the SMB protocol windows doesn't care what the file system is, that is not its job.

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