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      scottalanmiller
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      I live in the third world too, all remote controlled AC here, too. In the US, that's unheard of (at least to me.)

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        IT-ADMIN @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said:

        I live in the third world too, all remote controlled AC here, too. In the US, that's unheard of (at least to me.)

        hahahahahahaha, i was joking

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          thanksajdotcom @IT-ADMIN
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          @IT-ADMIN said:

          @scottalanmiller said:

          I live in the third world too, all remote controlled AC here, too. In the US, that's unheard of (at least to me.)

          hahahahahahaha, i was joking

          You're dealing with two Aspies...we tend to take stuff literally...

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            IT-ADMIN @thanksajdotcom
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            @thanksajdotcom said:

            @IT-ADMIN said:

            @scottalanmiller said:

            I live in the third world too, all remote controlled AC here, too. In the US, that's unheard of (at least to me.)

            hahahahahahaha, i was joking

            You're dealing with two Aspies...we tend to take stuff literally...

            ooooh sorry, i thought you were joking 😉

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              Jason Banned @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said:

              I live in the third world too, all remote controlled AC here, too. In the US, that's unheard of (at least to me.)

              Most other countries make more use of using Mini-split HVAC units. Here in the US Central HVAC is more common even if it uses more energy (and you have to heat/cool everything instead of just certain rooms like you can with mini-splits, and no duct to lose the temperature in a mini split)

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                Jason Banned
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                You can get more standard vent looking mini-splits but they aren't as common

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                  scottalanmiller @Jason
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                  @Jason said:

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  I live in the third world too, all remote controlled AC here, too. In the US, that's unheard of (at least to me.)

                  Most other countries make more use of using Mini-split HVAC units. Here in the US Central HVAC is more common even if it uses more energy (and you have to heat/cool everything instead of just certain rooms like you can with mini-splits, and no duct to lose the temperature in a mini split)

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                  Yup. It actually works amazingly well down here where the heat never stops.

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                    scottalanmiller @Jason
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                    @Jason said:

                    You can get more standard vent looking mini-splits but they aren't as common

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                    It's definitely seen those too, but you are right, it is rare.

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                      coliver @Jason
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                      @Jason said:

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      I live in the third world too, all remote controlled AC here, too. In the US, that's unheard of (at least to me.)

                      Most other countries make more use of using Mini-split HVAC units. Here in the US Central HVAC is more common even if it uses more energy (and you have to heat/cool everything instead of just certain rooms like you can with mini-splits, and no duct to lose the temperature in a mini split)

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                      We had two of those at a previous job. They worked amazingly well on warm-hot days... didn't work at all during the winter, never figured out why.

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                        Dashrender
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                        We have a mini split in our on-site DC. It has gone out 4 times in 8 years and been replaced fully once.

                        At this point in time I have a hard time trusting them.

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                          Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          @Jason said:

                          You can get more standard vent looking mini-splits but they aren't as common

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                          It's definitely seen those too, but you are right, it is rare.

                          This looks more like an RV style AC vent than a commercial install.

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                            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                            @Dashrender said:

                            We have a mini split in our on-site DC. It has gone out 4 times in 8 years and been replaced fully once.

                            At this point in time I have a hard time trusting them.

                            That's like saying your server died so you don't trust servers. Don't mix one model or vendor being unreliable, and especially not one specific unit and probably an individual installer, with a category of things. If you look at a Pinto, cars seem unreliable. If you look at a BMW 750i, they seem to never break. It's not that they are "cars" that defines their reliability but the maker, model, instance and maintenance on them.

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                              Dashrender
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                              yeah yeah I know... I'm on my second one... and second vendor (Carrier this time) and similar issues.

                              I know this doesn't mean the whole idea is bad... I'm simply frustrated by these that I've personally had experience with.

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                                scottalanmiller
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                                Carrier? After being in the Carrier Dome which they cannot air condition, I've never felt good about them. If they can't cool their own facility, why would I trust them? Never use someone that doesn't eat their own dog food.

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                                  scottalanmiller
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                                  Samsung and Frigidaire are the big players here.

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                                    Jason Banned
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                                    HVAC performance is just as much about the skill of the person installing and maintaining it as it is the brand of the unit. HVACs are suppose to be checked every 6 months. a lot of failures are from low coolant levels over time causing failure.

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                                      Jason Banned @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      Carrier? After being in the Carrier Dome which they cannot air condition, I've never felt good about them. If they can't cool their own facility, why would I trust them? Never use someone that doesn't eat their own dog food.

                                      Superisingly I've had better results from the cheaper brands like Heil/Goodman than I have from expensive brands like Trane, Carrier, Lennox, York etc.

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                                        coliver
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                                        Our units were Hitachi.

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                                          scottalanmiller @coliver
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                                          @coliver said:

                                          Our units were Hitachi.

                                          Those are common here too.

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                                            scottalanmiller @Jason
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                                            @Jason said:

                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            Carrier? After being in the Carrier Dome which they cannot air condition, I've never felt good about them. If they can't cool their own facility, why would I trust them? Never use someone that doesn't eat their own dog food.

                                            Superisingly I've had better results from the cheaper brands like Heil/Goodman than I have from expensive brands like Trane, Carrier, Lennox, York etc.

                                            Is it weird that I don't think of any of those as "good" or high end brands but as cheap American made stuff? AC is not something that American made sounds like quality to me outside of Frigidaire. Those are feel like consumer brands as opposed to the big enterprise makers.

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