Should I take the same money to go back to the same job?
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@Joy said:
Not yet, I'm not sure.
You never answered the one major point.... you did not feel that the old job was worth the old compensation before, why would you consider it now when it is literally less in absolute terms (inflation) and a lot less in relative terms (compensation for your value?)
If you go back, you would be accepting that you feel that you are less to them, not the same. You'd be on a slope downwards both in your career in general but to that company individually. Their offer is insulting and shows that they do not respect you.
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@Dashrender said:
And what expenses do you have now that you would not have if you moved back?
This part while relevant to personal finances should not even be considered when looking at the job offer for the same money as one had before.
As Scott stated, you would be moving backwards career wise and will never be able to get ahead at this new old company.
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@Dashrender said:
I'm a little confused. Are they offering you the same money you make today to go back there? Or are they offering you your old pay to go back there?
If they are offering you the old pay, what's the difference between the old pay and the new pay? And what expenses do you have now that you would not have if you moved back?
There's a big difference with my old pay and new pay.
The old pay-basically above minimum wage of the City with conditional-Like if you have lates or memo you can't get your whole Salary-Allowance. Low tax. Unlimited hours of overtime, no shifting because I'm the Leader, 5 days paid leave lols.
New Job- Above minimum wage, 8 hours -shifting-with HMO and 22 days leave with pay. Plus some bonuses if the economy is pretty good.Expenses is the same, I'm helping my siblings in college.
In The Province- rent of apartment is cheap, If you have 3k, you can get a nice apartment. Plus no need to commute daily. Just 3 mins walk.
In The City- Basically rent for apartment is around 5k for one room only, so I'm on bed spacing right now (shared toilet and bath,common living room and kitchen).Commute daily, Plus the traffic. -
@dafyre said:
If you enjoy your current job and have some room to grow... I would wonder why you were considering going back?
How far away is it from where you live now?
Well I'm still trying to figure out why I'm thinking to go back there.
It's 3 hours or more of commute because Traffic is worse.
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And the old company won't offer more than you were making before? Yeah I can't see making that move back.
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@Dashrender said:
And the old company won't offer more than you were making before? Yeah I can't see making that move back.
Yes, they wont
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@JaredBusch said:
As Scott stated, you would be moving backwards career wise and will never be able to get ahead at this new old company.
This part is important and may not be clear - once a company knows that you are desperate and willing to earn less year over year, they will keep pressuring you to earn less. They are taking advantage of you and will not stop doing so sometime in the future - that realistically does not happen. This is a slippery slope situation that you would only do if you were truly desperate.
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@Joy said:
@Dashrender said:
And the old company won't offer more than you were making before? Yeah I can't see making that move back.
Yes, they wont
They you should literally laugh at them and slam down the phone telling them to never disrespect you so much again.
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@Joy said:
It's 3 hours or more of commute because Traffic is worse.
3 hours one way? Or 3 hours commute time total?
Is it not possible to find an apartment any closer?
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Slamming the phone is figurative for those of us from the phone and cradle era. Do not slap your iPhone around.
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@scottalanmiller said:
Slamming the phone is figurative for those of us from the phone and cradle era. Do not slap your iPhone around.
LOL - I can see it now.. slam iphone = sad face and lost extra money
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@scottalanmiller said:
Slamming the phone is figurative for those of us from the phone and cradle era. Do not slap your iPhone around.
Gods, I miss that pressure release at times too.
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They need a "slam the phone" button that makes a slamming sound on the other end and automatically disconnects.
It could be the "hang up with prejudice" button or something.
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Going back to the old job seems like a clearly bad idea. There is no incentive for you to consider it, it would seem.
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@JaredBusch said:
@Joy said:
It's 3 hours or more of commute because Traffic is worse.
3 hours one way? Or 3 hours commute time total?
Is it not possible to find an apartment any closer?
6 hours commute of total
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@Joy said:
@JaredBusch said:
@Joy said:
It's 3 hours or more of commute because Traffic is worse.
3 hours one way? Or 3 hours commute time total?
Is it not possible to find an apartment any closer?
6 hours commute of total
You do that every day?
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Joy -
I think one what to work this out if you want ot just look at numbers is to factor every hour from when you close and lock your door heading to work and when you return to that door again at the endo f the day.
A three hour journey one way to the office is not a great way to start your day. Nor is it a good way to end it. Your 8 hour work day becomes a 14 hour day. Even if you are making more with the new company - you could be making less overall with just the commute.
Factor in your expenses and it just compounds that.
Now having said that What makes you happy? So often we make a choice about work solely based on money... But happiness trumps money.
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@Dashrender said:
@Joy said:
@JaredBusch said:
@Joy said:
It's 3 hours or more of commute because Traffic is worse.
3 hours one way? Or 3 hours commute time total?
Is it not possible to find an apartment any closer?
6 hours commute of total
You do that every day?
Sorry i was referring for the Old apartment that i been lived before in the province.
right now the commute should be 5 to 10 mins only but sometimes it will take 30 t0 45 mins due to traffic -
@gjacobse said:
Joy -
I think one what to work this out if you want ot just look at numbers is to factor every hour from when you close and lock your door heading to work and when you return to that door again at the endo f the day.
A three hour journey one way to the office is not a great way to start your day. Nor is it a good way to end it. Your 8 hour work day becomes a 14 hour day. Even if you are making more with the new company - you could be making less overall with just the commute.
Factor in your expenses and it just compounds that.
Now having said that What makes you happy? So often we make a choice about work solely based on money... But happiness trumps money.
Yes , I tried to do it first. and I'm always tired of my commute so i decided to look for bed space in the City.
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@Dashrender said:
@Joy said:
@JaredBusch said:
@Joy said:
It's 3 hours or more of commute because Traffic is worse.
3 hours one way? Or 3 hours commute time total?
Is it not possible to find an apartment any closer?
6 hours commute of total
You do that every day?
That was before i decided to look for bed space so that i don't need to go home everyday
