House Parties Going Away in America
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@DustinB3403 said:
I love the sound of a house party, unless it's at my neighbors and I'm not at it...
With that said, it also sounds like a ton of liability.. a kid sneaks in, starts drinking, drives drunk and kills someone. Even if you didn't condone the underage drinking, it happened at your residence, so you're liable.
No different than if a kid sneaks in while you are out of town and steals your liquor. Welcome to America. It's always the innocent at fault.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@DustinB3403 said:
I love the sound of a house party, unless it's at my neighbors and I'm not at it...
With that said, it also sounds like a ton of liability.. a kid sneaks in, starts drinking, drives drunk and kills someone. Even if you didn't condone the underage drinking, it happened at your residence, so you're liable.
No different than if a kid sneaks in while you are out of town and steals your liquor. Welcome to America. It's always the innocent at fault.
Actually, that's a B&E so the kid is at fault, it's perfectly legal for you to leave alcohol at your house. Because you're entitled to believe no one will break into your house. That is a reasonable assumption in court.
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@DustinB3403 said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@DustinB3403 said:
I love the sound of a house party, unless it's at my neighbors and I'm not at it...
With that said, it also sounds like a ton of liability.. a kid sneaks in, starts drinking, drives drunk and kills someone. Even if you didn't condone the underage drinking, it happened at your residence, so you're liable.
No different than if a kid sneaks in while you are out of town and steals your liquor. Welcome to America. It's always the innocent at fault.
Actually, that's a B&E so the kid is at fault, it's perfectly legal for you to leave alcohol at your house. Because you're entitled to believe no one will break into your house. That is a reasonable assumption in court.
Entering without permission is still in the same category as B&E. Someone sneaking into your house and stealing alcohol still lands you in court.
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American house parties look awesome (if everything I watch in movies is more or less the truth!). They're a bit less wild here in Europe, not least due to the fact that we can drink in bars from about the age of 16.
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Kid is "at fault" in both cases. Entering without permission, stealing alcohol. Who is "at fault" has no bearing on who gets sued, especially in NY where local jurisdiction overrides any state laws.
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Entering without permission means you're home, and should be aware that someone is entering your property.
The other indicates that you're away and is a B&E. Completely different cases.
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@Carnival-Boy said:
American house parties look awesome (if everything I watch in movies is more or less the truth!). They're a bit less wild here in Europe, not least due to the fact that we can drink in bars from about the age of 16.
They were awesome in the 1960s and 1970s. We still held them in Texas until two years ago. We had a full bar in the house and once a week we'd have friends, mostly in their 20s, over and we'd do full cocktail making and snacks and everything. Lacked the fancy dress of the 1960s, but the same basics.
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@DustinB3403 said:
Entering without permission means you're home, and should be aware that someone is entering your property.
The other indicates that you're away and is a B&E. Completely different cases.
Nope, B&E doesn't suggest that you are not home. People can sneak in and steal with or without you home. That implication is not there at all.
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And proving that you were or were not home would be a completely separate thing. How would either party necessarily even know?
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@scottalanmiller said:
@DustinB3403 said:
Entering without permission means you're home, and should be aware that someone is entering your property.
The other indicates that you're away and is a B&E. Completely different cases.
Nope, B&E doesn't suggest that you are not home. People can sneak in and steal with or without you home. That implication is not there at all.
This is definitely true. We had our house burglarized during a major rain storm while we were home. The storm covered up the noise they made breaking in.
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I had friends who were home when someone broke in and they got tied up. So they were not able to stop the people taking the alcohol. They knew everything was being taken, but there wasn't anything that they could do about it.
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@scottalanmiller That's a case of wrongful imprisonment, b&e, theft and likely a few other charges.
Were they hurt or left to be? Hopefully they're ok.
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Saturday night will be one of the grandest, most amazing house parties of the year at my neighbor's house... which is perfect, because I can easily get home whenever I want. No kids allowed, lots of booze, finger food, and a bonfire.
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Does having a weekly poker game count toward this?
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@Dashrender Yes.
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@Dashrender said:
Does having a weekly poker game count toward this?
Definitely! Any gathering for the sole purpose of having fun counts. 8-)
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Sweet, than I'm in the game! We had a weekly game for 10 years, then took 6 years off and just restarted it 6 weeks ago.
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@Dashrender similar, but monthly board game nights. I'll make food, guests bring booze and cigars.
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In my group of friends my house is the place to gather, at least once a week we get together, eat some food, etc. Once a month we have a bigger game night.
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@jenuinecase said:
In my group of friends my house is the place to gather, at least once a week we get together, eat some food, etc. Once a month we have a bigger game night.
I did not read the linked article. is it talking about this kind of thing or larger house parties?
