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    Consumer Grade SSDs vs Enterprise Grade SSDs

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    • StrongBadS
      StrongBad
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      Are you including the warranty and support in the "double" the cost numbers? Because that is where most of the money normally goes.

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      • DustinB3403D
        DustinB3403
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        The base reaction is just the failure rate from consumer to enterprise.

        No other considerations are included.

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        • MattSpellerM
          MattSpeller
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          Depends on your workload. If you're running anything that's super crazy write intensive then it might be worth it. Most regular scenarios I'd bet that Samsung 840/850 Pro's will do just fine.

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          • StrongBadS
            StrongBad @DustinB3403
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            @DustinB3403 said:

            The base reaction is just the failure rate from consumer to enterprise.

            No other considerations are included.

            Whose base reaction?

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403 @StrongBad
              last edited by

              @StrongBad my bosses.

              He feels more comfortable with enterprise grade SSD's, I'm trying trying to determine if it's actually "worth it".

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              • MattSpellerM
                MattSpeller
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                This is really trivial to figure out man, just look up the write endurance & do the math

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                • StrongBadS
                  StrongBad @DustinB3403
                  last edited by

                  @DustinB3403 said:

                  @StrongBad my bosses.

                  He feels more comfortable with enterprise grade SSD's, I'm trying trying to determine if it's actually "worth it".

                  If it is about "feels", does "worth it" come into play?

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @MattSpeller
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                    @MattSpeller said:

                    This is really trivial to figure out man, just look up the write endurance & do the math

                    I don't consider this trivial.

                    If he has 6 TB of used storage today, and we assume that will be mostly static, and we add 12 GB a day - again as static files, I'm not really sure who to figure this out?

                    The one great thing Dustin has going for him.. he isn't running SQL or any other big DBs (yes he has AD which is a DB, but you get my point), so he won't be writing/deleting/writing/deleting, etc.

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                    • MattSpellerM
                      MattSpeller
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                      other good reading
                      http://techreport.com/review/27909/the-ssd-endurance-experiment-theyre-all-dead

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                        @Dashrender said:

                        @MattSpeller said:

                        This is really trivial to figure out man, just look up the write endurance & do the math

                        I don't consider this trivial.

                        If he has 6 TB of used storage today, and we assume that will be mostly static, and we add 12 GB a day - again as static files, I'm not really sure who to figure this out?

                        The one great thing Dustin has going for him.. he isn't running SQL or any other big DBs (yes he has AD which is a DB, but you get my point), so he won't be writing/deleting/writing/deleting, etc.

                        You are looking for hard numbers as to how long it will last. That's hard. Very hard. But that's not necessary. You can just do a comparison. Does the enterprise last 10% longer, 50% longer, 200% longer. You need for use rates, just use the relative rates and the price difference and apply.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
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                          So here is the question... on the drives being considered what are the prices and the write durability numbers?

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                          • MattSpellerM
                            MattSpeller @Dashrender
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                            @Dashrender round up to 20GB/day

                            Samsung specs 850pro @ 300TB written

                            300,000GB / 20GB = 15,000 days / 365 = 41 years

                            What about 100GB/day?

                            300,000GB / 100GB = 8 years

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              You are looking for hard numbers as to how long it will last. That's hard. Very hard. But that's not necessary. You can just do a comparison. Does the enterprise last 10% longer, 50% longer, 200% longer. You need for use rates, just use the relative rates and the price difference and apply.

                              Sure, but if his environment is mostly static, doesn't this really change the way you look at it?

                              For example - If I want to build a cold storage system that will be write:once read:infinity, the durability of writes is much less significant.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                last edited by

                                @Dashrender said:

                                Sure, but if his environment is mostly static, doesn't this really change the way you look at it?

                                Depends. Are you trying to determine the relative value or are you trying to see if they are worrying about silly things? We already know the latter, so it must be the former.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                  last edited by

                                  @Dashrender said:

                                  For example - If I want to build a cold storage system that will be write:once read:infinity, the durability of writes is much less significant.

                                  In which case we know the answer already.

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @MattSpeller
                                    last edited by

                                    @MattSpeller said:

                                    @Dashrender round up to 20GB/day

                                    Samsung specs 850pro @ 300TB written

                                    300,000GB / 20GB = 15,000 days / 365 = 41 years

                                    What about 100GB/day?

                                    300,000GB / 100GB = 8 years

                                    Sure, if you are assuming you're writing to the same spot on the disk - the only time this matters. But if you are only adding 20 GB a day, and not changing the old stuff, that number goes MUCH higher.

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      @Dashrender said:

                                      Sure, but if his environment is mostly static, doesn't this really change the way you look at it?

                                      Depends. Are you trying to determine the relative value or are you trying to see if they are worrying about silly things? We already know the latter, so it must be the former.

                                      If they are worrying about silly things, doesn't that make the former moot?

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                        last edited by

                                        @Dashrender said:

                                        @MattSpeller said:

                                        @Dashrender round up to 20GB/day

                                        Samsung specs 850pro @ 300TB written

                                        300,000GB / 20GB = 15,000 days / 365 = 41 years

                                        What about 100GB/day?

                                        300,000GB / 100GB = 8 years

                                        Sure, if you are assuming you're writing to the same spot on the disk - the only time this matters. But if you are only adding 20 GB a day, and not changing the old stuff, that number goes MUCH higher.

                                        If you constantly add anything each day, you will start overwriting.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                          @Dashrender said:

                                          If they are worrying about silly things, doesn't that make the former moot?

                                          It's all about the emotional reaction of "is it worth it."

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                                          • DustinB3403D
                                            DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            So here is the question... on the drives being considered what are the prices and the write durability numbers?

                                            One drive is Samsung 850 EVO 1 TB 2.5-Inch SATA III Internal SSD (MZ-75E1T0B/AM) the other is Hewlett-Packard F3C96AT internal SSD

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