Star Wars: The Force Awakens
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@JaredBusch said:
@coliver said:
I can't disagree with anything here. I really liked the Star Wars EU it was so much better then both the original trilogy and the new trilogy. I wish Disney had looked at that (the Thrawn series comes to mind) and used that as a basis for the new Star Wars movies.
While I do agree that I wish they had not thrown out the entire EU, the Thrawn series was only a few years after RotJ though. This causes a lot of problems with actor ages.
The Timothy Zahn trilogy (Thrawn) was officially the episodes 7/8/9 that would never be made into a movie from what I recall in the news back then. I have them in hardback.
I have those books in soft cover. Never realized they were the official last trilogy. So many good things came out of those books.
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@coliver said:
I have those books in soft cover. Never realized they were the official last trilogy. So many good things came out of those books.
Yup, it was a huge deal at the time that the last trilogy was going to print and the first one might become movies, which it did. They committed to wrapping up the story in one way or another. That's why those are the only SW books that I ever read, because they weren't "extra" stories but were the rest of the story that we had already started.
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Ah, the Zahn Trilogy. Have not read those in years. When did they release? Seems like... 1990?
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@scottalanmiller said:
I'm in no way opposed to Disney making the new movies. That they decided to leave the canon behind and do a different final trilogy that the real one makes my OCD go crazy. It's not the real story so.... it's like anti-Star Wars.
I understand why they did it though. Making movies inside the universe that already existed in the books offered little if anything new to add. Sure they could have some new side line whatever, but making sure it didn't break anything that already existed would be near impossible. Heck just look at the books, there are whole books that were already completely ignored when the second trilogy came out - Luke's mom was a part of white light group (I've forgotten the details).
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@Dashrender said:
I understand why they did it though. Making movies inside the universe that already existed in the books offered little if anything new to add.
That's like saying you understand that Peter Jackson had to work hard to ruin the Hobbit story. Why modify the existing story? If Star Wars isn't a universe that people like, move on. Why make competing universes within the SW universe?
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You have a point - I felt that they should have gone into the future, the distant future and make a whole new story.
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@Dashrender said:
You have a point - I felt that they should have gone into the future, the distant future and make a whole new story.
Yes, now THAT I could have been solidly behind. Or way into the past, like KOTOR did. Forking the universe is the one really, really bad option.
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@Dashrender said:
Heck just look at the books, there are whole books that were already completely ignored when the second trilogy came out - Luke's mom was a part of white light group (I've forgotten the details).
But the second trilogy was the official canon, right? That's the thing, SW was one story broken into nine parts. That part was the original story. AFAIK it was not heavily altered by the time that the second trilogy was made and the divergence was the fault of the books not following the canon (and therefore only sort of are even Star Wars books.) Which is how I feel about the new movies - they aren't really Star Wars. They are just "Star Wars inspired" by people who didn't actually like Star Wars. So they aren't for the fans, I'm not really sure who they are for. Only people who like the idea of Star Wars but don't actually like Star Wars itself?
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I've heard that the rumor that George wrote all nine parts and made the middle part was not true. From what I recall, George had a few of the details down for the second trilogy (the prequels), but it wasn't fleshed out. I haven't heard one way or the other if George and committed to paper who Luke and Leia's mother was before the book was written.
Also, the whole Thrawn trilogy - yeah - It's my understanding that George didn't write that either.
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@Dashrender said:
Also, the whole Thrawn trilogy - yeah - It's my understanding that George didn't write that either.
Zahn wrote it from George's notes, is what I was told at the time. It was certainly authorized as the final trilogy, though.
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I'll see if I can get some additional information from a source I trust (Stephen Sansweet).
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Yer all a bunch of dorks. I have never read any of the SW books, but I enjoyed the movies. Except Phantom Menace. That was a total disgrace. I'm ready to give the new trilogy a chance. The preview for this first one looks pretty good. I could give a crap if it's part of the original story. I didn't read any of that anyway. I'm looking for an enjoyable movie that takes off in some way from the original trilogy (movies, not books). It's true, the original movie trilogy is classic, and not geeky. It's only that geeks have geeked-out over it and the books that makes any of it geeky. The movies are simply classic cinema.
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The Zahn trilogy is generally considered classic literature as well and nothing like the other SW books. They published and approached like "real" books instead what would be come standard SW fiction, if you know what I mean.
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@scottalanmiller said:
The Zahn trilogy is generally considered classic literature as well and nothing like the other SW books. They published and approached like "real" books instead what would be come standard SW fiction, if you know what I mean.
Agreed, the rest became classic comic type series
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Please tell me there's no Jar Jar Binks
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This was just on 9gag...
