Star Wars: The Force Awakens
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@JayRMS said:
Netflix is anticipated to get the streaming rights for the first 6 movies here in the next month. I've already been getting the wife mentally prepared. I've started buying her SW shirts and slipping Han quotes into normal conversation.
I still refuse to acknowledge more than three movies or any edits made after 1985's LD master copy.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@coliver said:
I think I'm going to force my wife to go to a midnight showing with me... after watching the rest of the original trilogy first.
She hasn't seen them yet? Or you are just doing a marathon?
She hasn't seen them yet or saw them when she was so young she doesn't remember them... She thinks they are super geeky movies and doesn't want to watch them.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@JayRMS said:
Netflix is anticipated to get the streaming rights for the first 6 movies here in the next month. I've already been getting the wife mentally prepared. I've started buying her SW shirts and slipping Han quotes into normal conversation.
I still refuse to acknowledge more than three movies or any edits made after 1985's LD master copy.
Pretty much this. The original trilogy is the best, but Disney has a good opportunity to make something really good without Lucas' influence.
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I haven't seen the trailer yet. I'm still deciding if I'm going to watch it. I really want to be surprised when I see the movie. Today, especially movies like this, movies seem to leak nearly everything long before they hit the screen definitely taking some of the awesomeness away from the viewing experience.
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@coliver said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@JayRMS said:
Netflix is anticipated to get the streaming rights for the first 6 movies here in the next month. I've already been getting the wife mentally prepared. I've started buying her SW shirts and slipping Han quotes into normal conversation.
I still refuse to acknowledge more than three movies or any edits made after 1985's LD master copy.
Pretty much this. The original trilogy is the best, but Disney has a good opportunity to make something really good without Lucas' influence.
I'm torn between Disney actually caring and doing a good job when Lucas literally hated Star Wars and everything about it, and the new movies not being canon and leaving the Star Wars universe.
Honestly, Lucas made me dislike Star Wars and even though I truly loved the first three movies, his own loathing of the universe and his fans made me very disenchanted. I was so excited when the second trilogy was made and clearly it was the work of people who hated everything that I had thought that Star Wars was. Now that I know the originals were only good as an accident and not because they were designed to be, they mean so much less to me.
It really ruined SW to me completely. Now... I won't even watch the new ones.
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@coliver said:
She hasn't seen them yet or saw them when she was so young she doesn't remember them... She thinks they are super geeky movies and doesn't want to watch them.
The originals were not geeky at all, they were classic cinema. It's actually nerdy to skip them; it's the hipster thing to do. They were mainstream.
The next trilogy was truly geeky and not good movie making nor anything. Sadly, that trilogy kind of ruined it for everyone.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@coliver said:
She hasn't seen them yet or saw them when she was so young she doesn't remember them... She thinks they are super geeky movies and doesn't want to watch them.
The originals were not geeky at all, they were classic cinema. It's actually nerdy to skip them; it's the hipster thing to do. They were mainstream.
The next trilogy was truly geeky and not good movie making nor anything. Sadly, that trilogy kind of ruined it for everyone.
Agreed, she also hasn't seen the original Indiana Jones trilogy... so that is also going on the list.
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The only thing that makes me wonder about skipping the movies entirely (I'm truly thinking about never watching them, ever) is that Disney has done such awesome things with the LucasArts video game library since taking over. Disney seems to actually care about what they are doing with the IP.
But as the new movies are just expensive fan fiction, it seems insanely cheesy and geeky to me.
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@coliver said:
Agreed, she also hasn't seen the original Indiana Jones trilogy... so that is also going on the list.
Wow. Those aren't geeky in any way. Just good, classic movies.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@coliver said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@JayRMS said:
Netflix is anticipated to get the streaming rights for the first 6 movies here in the next month. I've already been getting the wife mentally prepared. I've started buying her SW shirts and slipping Han quotes into normal conversation.
I still refuse to acknowledge more than three movies or any edits made after 1985's LD master copy.
Pretty much this. The original trilogy is the best, but Disney has a good opportunity to make something really good without Lucas' influence.
I'm torn between Disney actually caring and doing a good job when Lucas literally hated Star Wars and everything about it, and the new movies not being canon and leaving the Star Wars universe.
Honestly, Lucas made me dislike Star Wars and even though I truly loved the first three movies, his own loathing of the universe and his fans made me very disenchanted. I was so excited when the second trilogy was made and clearly it was the work of people who hated everything that I had thought that Star Wars was. Now that I know the originals were only good as an accident and not because they were designed to be, they mean so much less to me.
It really ruined SW to me completely. Now... I won't even watch the new ones.
I can't disagree with anything here. I really liked the Star Wars EU it was so much better then both the original trilogy and the new trilogy. I wish Disney had looked at that (the Thrawn series comes to mind) and used that as a basis for the new Star Wars movies.
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It took me years to bring myself to play KOTOR. Now I know it is the best part of the ecosystem
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@scottalanmiller said:
It took me years to bring myself to play KOTOR. Now I know it is the best part of the ecosystem
Yep, the Expanded Universe took advantage of all those people who loved the original trilogy and told them to run rampant. I liked pretty much all the books until they got to the New Jedi Order stuff. One of my all time favorite books is "I, Jedi".
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@scottalanmiller said:
The only thing that makes me wonder about skipping the movies entirely (I'm truly thinking about never watching them, ever) is that Disney has done such awesome things with the LucasArts video game library since taking over. Disney seems to actually care about what they are doing with the IP.
But as the new movies are just expensive fan fiction, it seems insanely cheesy and geeky to me.
Disney has show (arguably with the Marvel CU) that they care more about the IP then the original owners do/did.
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@coliver said:
@scottalanmiller said:
The only thing that makes me wonder about skipping the movies entirely (I'm truly thinking about never watching them, ever) is that Disney has done such awesome things with the LucasArts video game library since taking over. Disney seems to actually care about what they are doing with the IP.
But as the new movies are just expensive fan fiction, it seems insanely cheesy and geeky to me.
Disney has show (arguably with the Marvel CU) that they care more about the IP then the original owners do/did.
Yes, their track record is good.
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I'm in no way opposed to Disney making the new movies. That they decided to leave the canon behind and do a different final trilogy that the real one makes my OCD go crazy. It's not the real story so.... it's like anti-Star Wars.
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I think I might be more excited about Rogue One because in my head I think it's a bit easier not to screw up.
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@JayRMS said:
I think I might be more excited about Rogue One because in my head I think it's a bit easier not to screw up.
Yep, I'm really excited about Rouge One. I'm also hoping they do some more grown-up themed series with Netflix similar to what the Marvel brand is doing with Jessica Jones.
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One of the good / bad things about Star Wars is that as a universe, it was all generated to tell one story. It's like a linear versus open world video game. Star Wars is linear, the universe is not well fleshed out and makes little sense if you deviate from the main path. Star Trek is open world, it has a framework for going off in different directions but has less ability to tell a single, coherent story.
This allowed the original trilogy to tell an epic story that really can't be touched. It was so perfect. But it also meant that Star Wars lacks the ability to tell additional stories well.
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I think I read an article with the top potential series including Han origin, Wedge, Imperial Academy, etc.
Yes I would absolutely be on board for 12 part netflix series. Curious how long it would take for me to feel over saturated... I think Marvel is almost to that point with so much going on, but I anticipate Civil War will change that.
