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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @IT-ADMIN
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      @IT-ADMIN said:

      windows built in backup

      Then you are right back to square one - your backups will be limited to one day.

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      • IT-ADMINI
        IT-ADMIN
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        i have been using it for a long time, i think it is great
        the only limitation that i had is how to keep my backup externally
        now that i will buy a NAS, this problem will be solved 🙂

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        • IT-ADMINI
          IT-ADMIN @Dashrender
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          @Dashrender said:

          @IT-ADMIN said:

          windows built in backup

          Then you are right back to square one - your backups will be limited to one day.

          no, i will have daily version of my backups because windows backup can do this if the destination is a local HD

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender
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            But a NAS is NOT considered local. NAS uses file protocol, so it will not work for your needs.

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              IT-ADMIN
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              the limitation comes when you choose network shared folder
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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender
                last edited by Dashrender

                To get what you want, you will have to use a DAS or a SAN. The only difference between DAS and SAN are the protocol you use to talk to the device. i.e. DAS = SATA or SCSI communciation, SAN = iSCSI or other block protocol.

                *edited for clarity

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                  IT-ADMIN
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                  ooooooh i'm very very sorry i confused between NAS and SAN

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                  • IT-ADMINI
                    IT-ADMIN
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                    in this case i will content myself with DAS, because as far as i can see SAN is the most expensive one

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                    • IT-ADMINI
                      IT-ADMIN
                      last edited by

                      great, now i understand
                      i made my decision, buy a DAS and connect it with my file server and i'm done 😉

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @IT-ADMIN
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                        @IT-ADMIN said:

                        in this case i will content myself with DAS, because as far as i can see SAN is the most expensive one

                        Well, that really depends. You don't have to do crazy expensive SAN. The Drobo 5n mentioned earlier might be perfect for this.

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                          IT-ADMIN
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                          i think i will buy a RAID 1 DAS, what do you think ??

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                          • IT-ADMINI
                            IT-ADMIN
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                            i want the cheapest option

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                            • IT-ADMINI
                              IT-ADMIN
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                              the size of the business is very small, and the size of data i want to backup is about 500 GB

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                                @IT-ADMIN said:

                                @Dashrender said:

                                @IT-ADMIN said:

                                windows built in backup

                                Then you are right back to square one - your backups will be limited to one day.

                                no, i will have daily version of my backups because windows backup can do this if the destination is a local HD

                                You MUST stop saying local or network. You are confusing yourself. The options are only block and file. Block is what you are calling "local" and file is what you are calling "remote" and Windows calls "shared."

                                If you need using terms that don't make sense, you will keep making bad decisions because you can't differentiate the technologies properly.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
                                  last edited by

                                  @IT-ADMIN said:

                                  i have been using it for a long time, i think it is great
                                  the only limitation that i had is how to keep my backup externally
                                  now that i will buy a NAS, this problem will be solved 🙂

                                  You stated that this was not true in the original post.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                                    @IT-ADMIN said:

                                    ooooooh i'm very very sorry i confused between NAS and SAN

                                    Did you read the article about understanding NAS and SAN that I linked for you?

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                                      @IT-ADMIN said:

                                      in this case i will content myself with DAS, because as far as i can see SAN is the most expensive one

                                      No, you skipped my article. DAS, NAS and SAN have no price difference. Anyone telling you that they are different based on cost does not understand the terms and you should not talk to them about storage further. We are only talking about protocols here, that there is a cost difference makes no sense conceptually.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                                        @IT-ADMIN said:

                                        great, now i understand
                                        i made my decision, buy a DAS and connect it with my file server and i'm done 😉

                                        But are very vulnerable to ransonware.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                          @Dashrender said:

                                          Well, that really depends. You don't have to do crazy expensive SAN. The Drobo 5n mentioned earlier might be perfect for this.

                                          No, the Drobo 5D, a DAS unit, was mentioned. The Drobo 5N is a NAS and only a NAS. It is, in fact, the only pure NAS available on the sub $50K market. The only SMB NAS device made.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                                            @IT-ADMIN said:

                                            i think i will buy a RAID 1 DAS, what do you think ??

                                            I don't think anyone agrees that that is a good idea, because you are unnecessarily exposing and limiting yourself. What is your reason for going that route?

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