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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said:

      @Jason said:

      @Dashrender said:

      Would hiding the shares with a $ make any difference in this situation?

      doubt it, that's not really hidden, it's up to the client device to hide it from the end user. Windows explorer hides it from the user. Linux and others do not.

      Which means that the ransomeware code is not going to hide it either. Likely it won't even notice that you've attempted to hide something. Much like MS Office security, open those files with something other than MS Office and that private data hidden in there is exposed in such a way that the people using it are not even aware that you thought that you were hiding it.

      LOL - wow.. I didn't know that about that feature. I'll try to remember to remind others it's really a pointless feature.

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      • dafyreD
        dafyre @IT-ADMIN
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        @IT-ADMIN said:

        @scottalanmiller said:

        @IT-ADMIN said:

        how to make a NAS not mapped, is it by using username and password right ??

        Simply don't map it! 🙂

        great, so i shouldn't create a map drive (pointing to NAS) in the server sending the backup to the NAS

        You can configure that in Veeam so that it doesn't need the mapped drive. However, as others have mentioned, I would create an AD account specifically for backups. Create your share on the NAS so that only the backup account has access to it.

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        • IT-ADMINI
          IT-ADMIN
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          i think those ransomware engineers attack US businesses, because they know that the core economy reside in USA, they will not spend their time to attack worthless data of business in countries like qatar, lol

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
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            And backup the NAS to something that goes offline, like a USB external drive or tape.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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              @IT-ADMIN said:

              i think those ransomware engineers attack US businesses, because they know that the core economy reside in USA, they will not spend their time to attack worthless data of business in countries like qatar, lol

              That's not in any way how any of this works.

              reddit-thats-not-how-this-works.jpg

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              • IT-ADMINI
                IT-ADMIN
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                hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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                • IT-ADMINI
                  IT-ADMIN
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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                    @IT-ADMIN said:

                    i think those ransomware engineers attack US businesses, because they know that the core economy reside in USA, they will not spend their time to attack worthless data of business in countries like qatar, lol

                    That you have said this makes you the absolute most likely candidate for this to happen to. This is the least secure thinking I could imagine.

                    Why do you feel that ransomware "targets" anyone? It does not. It hits everyone. EVERYONE. There is no concept of "don't take HIS money, he doesn't have a lot." That's crazy. They aren't going to waste their own time and effort avoiding you, if you can afford the ransom they will just shut you down and use you as an example to others. They have no way to know, nor would they care, that you are in Qatar.

                    Take a moment to empathize with ransomware writers, their goals, their effort, how this works. Clearly being in Qatar provides you absolutely zero protection from this. If anything it makes it far more likely because you do business with similar insecure companies.

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                    • IT-ADMINI
                      IT-ADMIN
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                      now i see, and how people get affected by this damn ransomware, ??
                      spam emails or maybe an affected USB ???
                      so that we can take our precaution

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                      • DustinB3403D
                        DustinB3403 @IT-ADMIN
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                        @IT-ADMIN said:

                        now i see, and how people get affected by this damn ransomware, ??
                        spam emails or maybe an affected USB ???
                        so that we can take our precaution

                        All of the above are sources of Ransomware.

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                        • IT-ADMINI
                          IT-ADMIN
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                          very scaaaary, i hope never waking up in the morning with a screen like this, damn

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                            @IT-ADMIN said:

                            now i see, and how people get affected by this damn ransomware, ??
                            spam emails or maybe an affected USB ???

                            Anything could do it.

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                            • dafyreD
                              dafyre @IT-ADMIN
                              last edited by

                              @IT-ADMIN said:

                              now i see, and how people get affected by this damn ransomware, ??
                              spam emails or maybe an affected USB ???
                              so that we can take our precaution

                              Pretty much all of those. All it takes is one person to pick up a strange USB device and plug it in at their office computer... or to click one bad link in an email... or even one malicious ad on a legit website (https://blog.malwarebytes.org/malvertising-2/2015/08/angler-exploit-kit-strikes-on-msn-com-via-malvertising-campaign/)

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                Why do you feel that ransomware "targets" anyone? It does not. It hits everyone. EVERYONE. There is no concept of "don't take HIS money, he doesn't have a lot."

                                This is the problem. For some reason, people (in general) think that there is someone at a keyboard running these virii. They clearly don't understand that they are completely automated and are happy to steal $0.01 vs 1 billion dollars. And by happy I mean, no feelings at all.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                                  @IT-ADMIN said:

                                  so that we can take our precaution

                                  • Never use software from third parties like download sites.
                                  • Never use cracked software
                                  • Keep your systems fully up to date and patched
                                  • Run the latest software, not old versions
                                  • Follow the principle of least necessary privilege
                                  • Never let users be administrators
                                  • Use a good AntiVirus like WebRoot and keep it updated
                                  • Use a good firewall with Layer 7 filtering, like Palo Alto
                                  • Restrict what users can do on the network, like going to random websites or inserting USB sticks
                                  • Move from file servers to decoupled storage like many cloud products have
                                  • Use decoupled backups
                                  • Use backup media that is offline (like tape)
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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                    last edited by

                                    @Dashrender said:

                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    Why do you feel that ransomware "targets" anyone? It does not. It hits everyone. EVERYONE. There is no concept of "don't take HIS money, he doesn't have a lot."

                                    This is the problem. For some reason, people (in general) think that there is someone at a keyboard running these virii. They clearly don't understand that they are completely automated and are happy to steal $0.01 vs 1 billion dollars. And by happy I mean, no feelings at all.

                                    And also happy if you cannot pay and will just post online about how you lost everything and went out of business because that makes them money too from other companies that now know that they will have to pay.

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                                    • IT-ADMINI
                                      IT-ADMIN
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                                      i realize that i was very ignorant about the risks we have as network admins, i should setup a good backup plan as soon as possible, wow we are like in a forest, the strong eat the weak

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        • Use a good firewall with Layer 7 filtering, like Palo Alto

                                        How many of use actually do this though?

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                          last edited by

                                          @Dashrender said:

                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          • Use a good firewall with Layer 7 filtering, like Palo Alto

                                          How many of use actually do this though?

                                          More than you'd think. Sophos is pretty popular in the SMB.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                                            @IT-ADMIN said:

                                            i realize that i was very ignorant about the risks we have as network admins, i should setup a good backup plan as soon as possible, wow we are like in a forest, the strong eat the weak

                                            Yes, among the most important aspects of IT are security, risk management, disaster planning, etc. These are our core skills. The other stuff that we do is pretty trivial.

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