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      coliver @IT-ADMIN
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      @IT-ADMIN said:

      yes guys you are right, i'm not talking about the economic benefit i get behind using virtualization (since i have small environment) but rather what is matter for me is disaster recovery, and yeah you are right again because dealing with hardware is more tricky

      Oh, yes DR is made significantly easier when dealing with virtual machines instead of physical servers. If you have a good backup of the VM you can quickly move it to a different server and have it up and running in minutes.

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        IT-ADMIN
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        by the way i have a question here : can i move the bare metal system image to another physical server ?? (both server are identical )

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          DustinB3403 @IT-ADMIN
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          @IT-ADMIN Yes you could, but the question is why.

          If you virtualize the environment, you simply import the backup to a different hypervisor host and are up and running in a little time as that takes.

          You're attempting to say that "Because we're such a small shop that we can't benefit from virtualizing" but this is just untrue. Any organization can benefit from virtualizing. Any size at all.

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            IT-ADMIN
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            dear @DustinB3403, what makes me not moving to virtualization is a long story, lol
            license issue and the P2V process (cuz the system itself is not very good)

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              IT-ADMIN
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              therefor i decided to keep everything as it is and just thinking of a solution to recover myself in case of disaster (and just keep this legacy of bare metal servers, only 2 DELL poweredge T310)

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                coliver @IT-ADMIN
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                @IT-ADMIN said:

                dear @DustinB3403, what makes me not moving to virtualization is a long story, lol
                license issue and the P2V process (cuz the system itself is not very good)

                No licensing for a hypervisor (or at least none you have to worry about). Look at Hyper-V or XenServer. Both are free to use for everyone. The only licensing you will need to worry about are your Windows licensing (if you have them).

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                  IT-ADMIN @coliver
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                  @coliver said:

                  @IT-ADMIN said:

                  dear @DustinB3403, what makes me not moving to virtualization is a long story, lol
                  license issue and the P2V process (cuz the system itself is not very good)

                  No licensing for a hypervisor (or at least none you have to worry about). Look at Hyper-V or XenServer. Both are free to use for everyone. The only licensing you will need to worry about are your Windows licensing (if you have them).

                  yes this is what i'm talking about: my windows server license 😞

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                    IT-ADMIN
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                    i think that i'm in a good position now with this veeam, it really save my ass, lol

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                      DustinB3403 @IT-ADMIN
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                      @IT-ADMIN said:

                      dear @DustinB3403, what makes me not moving to virtualization is a long story, lol
                      license issue and the P2V process (cuz the system itself is not very good)

                      Licensing I understand, meaning you have cracked licenses. The P2V process is really quite simple on any hypervisor you use.

                      Only in rare circumstances should you consider not virtualizing. One being extremely rare/custom hardware that doesn't work on any hypervisor.

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                        IT-ADMIN
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                        ok let's suppose that i P2V, if the P and V is online what will happen ??
                        i think both version will be blacklisted, isn't it ???

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                          IT-ADMIN
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                          by the way i didn't crack anything, i found this preexisted 😞

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                            dafyre
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                            What you do is you do the P2V... and then shut down the Physical machine and boot up the Virtual Machine... Ideally, your end users would only see a short blip as things have been rebooted. If you do this in the Off-hours, your users shouldn't notice a thing.

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                              coliver @IT-ADMIN
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                              @IT-ADMIN said:

                              by the way i didn't crack anything, i found this preexisted 😞

                              Being properly licensed is just a cost of doing business. You should really try and resolve that... Either way though aren't you already breaking your licensing? Why does moving it to a different server matter?

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                                dafyre
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                                As part of your move to virtualization, I'd recommend getting your OS Licensing up to snuff as well. Don't want any legal troubles from Microsoft or other companies.

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                                  Dashrender
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                                  His licensing concerns were covered in another thread. In his part of the world, they simply don't care about licensing and won't pay for it.

                                  That whole concept went on for about 2-3 hours.

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                                    dafyre @Dashrender
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                                    @Dashrender I musta missed it.

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                                      coliver @Dashrender
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                                      @Dashrender said:

                                      His licensing concerns were covered in another thread. In his part of the world, they simply don't care about licensing and won't pay for it.

                                      That whole concept went on for about 2-3 hours.

                                      Ah... I must have missed that one?

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                                        IT-ADMIN
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                                        lol, @Dashrender is up to date, thank you for clarifying that, i'm not ready to spend 3 hours again to say that here they don't care about licensing, in brief this is another story

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                                          dafyre @IT-ADMIN
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                                          @IT-ADMIN said:

                                          lol, @Dashrender is up to date, thank you for clarifying that, i'm not ready to spend 3 hours again to say that here they don't care about licensing, in brief this is another story

                                          It's all good. We got the short, short version. 🙂

                                          That may actually be a valid concern though, as I have seen a few P2V tools actually make Windows request another activation.

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                                            IT-ADMIN
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                                            so you told me that if i P2V i must disconnect the P from internet, isn't it ?? otherwise the system will be blacklisted ??

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